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I have a shotgun with the original owners initials on the stock oval.
Do I have a stock maker change the oval then send the entire stock,receiver,and action to the engraver, or can the oval be engraved before being installed ?
Secondly what is the best material for the engraver to work with ?
Thanks, terc
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24k gold may be the best material for an engraver but not the best material for the guy in-letting into a stock.
Here in the UK, stockers tend to let the oval in first before it is engraved and use a lower carat for the hardness. The hardness prevents the oval from deforming in the in-letting and enables the stocker to file the oval flat with the stock body. Also, with the cost of gold these days buying a strip of 10k for ovals is far cheaper that a strip of 24k.
Many years ago I was asked to inlet a new set of fully engraved ovals into a pair of guns. The customer had gone ahead, against my advice and had a set of ovals made and fancily engraved. Not only were the ovals smaller than the ones they were replacing but they were not the correct curve for the stock. A large amount of cursing followed as I took a serious amount of time to reshape the curve carefully and put them centrally in the old holes without marking them. Never again.
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well if you do a proper in letting the wood supports the gold. and it is soft enough to cut with out deforming the oval plus it adds value.you would have had no problem reshaping 24k as it works very easily mc
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First inlet the oval,adhere it to wood,shape/polish as needed, remove and send the oval out for engraving, then re-install the oval. Easiest way to make sure it is done right and without complications later. There are less and less engravers(I know of) that will do the job "on the gun" for fear of damaging the finish on the stock.
Dennis Earl Smith/Benefactor Life NRA, ACGG Professional member
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Thanks everyone, The advice is appreciated.
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Seems to me that ovals are mostly placed in rather nice wood and nice wood only seems to take a hard stare from me to put marks into it. I think 24k gold would scratch or mar just as easily. Engraving after placing in the wood is indeed difficult for the engraver but engraving it prior to inletting makes it even more difficult on the stockmaker. As a long time engraver and more or less hobby stockmaker I would opt for the inletting and then engraving and for the 10k oval over the 24k. I have done only a couple of these and only on guns that I was doing extensive engraving upon.
Sam Welch
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