doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Is everyone looking for a 410?

Ted, Bob Brister in his shotgun text book Shotgunning the Art and Science talks about the cold weather and declining performance. But hey I wouldn't shoot mallards with a 410, but they are fun in the right situation. The only drawback to Argintina doves is loading those little shells:)

Ted,
You make a good point. Those midwinter phez must be tough just to make it out there. I doubt I'd go after them with anything but a 12ga. While I've use one of my 410's to take a single phez, wild South Dakota phez at that, I wouldn't likely make it a regular event.

My use for a 410 has been for wild Calif Valley quail and recently Gambels quail. I'm finding my bag take didn't suffer much from using a 20ga. I'll admit, using the 410 has been a novelty. But then, all of my hunting is for my novel enjoyment.

I only have one 410, it's an 870 Wingmaster and for reference it weighs 6.5 ibs.. I have both 12 and 20 sxs's that weigh less and handle better so the 410 sees little use. My son does like to use it on ocassion to humiliate the old man, though.

Yep, those .410's are useless - won't kill a thing.



Especially not big birds:



Missing all those birds messes up the dogs, too:



I think you guys should sell all your .410's.

Nice gun. Who stocked and engraved such a .410?

The Missouri Conservation Magazine(where MM had his start) had an article on the early days of the regulated deer hunting season. The deer in those days were few and far in numbers, so not many pure deer rifles were about, and the ever present farmer's .22L rimfire rifle was pressed into action.
Anything can happen, even with a 410.

Murph,
That looks very much like some of Angelo Bee's work.

The short answer to your original question is 'Yes'.

I have alot of people asking me for a double .410 - either hammer or hammerless but they want adecent quality gun ata low price - rather than a 'best' gun at a high price or a cheap, low grade gun at whatever price (generally too high).

The problem is supply and demand - there are not many good .410s around in good nick and those there are, are expensive - so people baulk at the price in comparison to the quality. As a result, they think they want a .410 but they don't want to buy what is available for what it costs and therefore do not have a .410, but still think they want one.

Another problem is that everyone wants a 'man size .410' with original long stock and barrels - hen's teeth are easier to find. And they want them proofed for modern, long cartridges, which almost none were originally.

Of course, some people know all this and do buy the available guns at the prices asked, but more do not.

""The short answer to your original question is 'Yes'.""

Note the original question said "Is "EVERYONE"" so the short answer is "NO". There's at least Ted & I. Even my wife when she was able to get out & hunt with me some, always wanted a 28ga but never a .410 so make it at least three.

Sorry, I was being imprecise! I meant everyone except me, you, Ted and your wife. Actually, I meant 'A lot of people'.

I sold one on saturday when I went to help on a shotgun Proficiency course at Wiltshire College. the lady who bought it could actually hit the clays with it - not sure I could!

I sell a lot of Webley & Scott .410 bolt actions - to my mind the best value .410 available. Indestructable, nice handling and no recoil. For £100 a time, they go as fast as I can get them through.

I started shooting a 12-bore when I was twelve or thirteen - saw no point fiddling around with rat guns on a game shoot. Still don't - but I have no problem with those who want to.