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I am trying to help a friend determine the value of 2 guns. Both are Model 21 12 ga 30" Dt "farmer guns". Both are all original,and in good shape. One of the guns I believe to be 1st year production. He also has 2 sets of semi inletted Fajen wood that he bought years ago with the intention of creating a matched pair. Project never happened. He rarely shoots any more. All is going to get sold. Can anyone provide approx value of these items ? He is not trying to get rich, but doesnt want to give away.Any help would be appreciated.

Look at the prices where Model 21s are selling at on Gunbroker, Auction Arms, Gunsamerica, you'll find some that are alike and go from there.

Without pictures its pretty hard to accurately value.

Thanks treblig . I have not had any luck finding comparable guns anywhere on the usual sites. Lots of 21s listed and relisted and relisted. I was guessing the guns are in the 3k - 4k range.No clue how you would find a value of the Fajen wood. Will try to get some pics of all to post.

Farmer's Grade Model 21s are developing a cult following, but the prices are pretty much staying stagnent. Semi inletted wood is looked down upon by stockmakers who now largely own and use pantographs. $3000 each for the guns and the wood would probably not be useful for any talented stockmaker. Are the serial numbers low enough to be interesting? Hopefully the barrels are 30" or 32". A 32" gun would be a bit of an incentive for the buyer.

Serial numbers are 172 and 1866. Barrels are both 30"

Without running the current numbers, my guess is that you will probably find like guns on the net going for about $3250. Figure net prices are typically on the high side of the sale price by 10%, and you arrive at something around the $3000 mark like 8bore suggested.

21s are "supposed" to be upper crust, ST/BT/PG guns. If a particular example strays too far from that norm, it's hard to get people's attention. Think shooters vs. show pieces. If the seller has some sense about him, he will quickly come to that conclusion.

As to the wood, it only has value if you really want new wood. Otherwise you're just paying him to take an orphan project off his hands. To my mind there's not a lot of difference between semi-inletted wood and a raw blank. He can throw in the wood or sell it separately.

They look like nice guns.

Yesterday, Model 21 "Farmer's Grade" serial number 2 sold for $9000 in a local auction. Word has it that it was found in Sweden a while back. I has nice original metal finish, a few dents in the original wood, and the original buttplate. It is a 30" 12 gauge bored modified and full.

Fair value is 3-3.5 K from what I see selling. Guns listed on the Internet do not sell if you are seeing them listed and relisted for months or even years. Common misconception about fair value is that asking/listing price is the average selling price . With the extra wood I would be looking for about 8k for the pair. If you are selling them a dealer will tell you the extra trigger decreases value and when he has the same guns for sale he will tell you they are rare with two triggers and ask extra .

The extra wood is a lot of work for the average buyer. He may pay someone else to do the work but that may set him back 3k per gun to finish the restocking

I keep looking at the pictures and wondering why someone would want to re-stock these to begin with? The original stocks appear to still be in their factory configurations and in decent solid condition. It seems to me this would be a monumental waste of money.
Am I missing something here?
Jim