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Damascus Pattern - What do I have?? #321798 04/17/13 09:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 71 Maxey Brantley OP Sidelock
OP Maxey Brantley Sidelock Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 71	I have a damascus barreled English hammer gun and would like to get a consensus of which pattern I have. Anyone willing to post a pix for me if I sent it to them in an email?.....bit challenged in the www department.... It is believed to be 1880-1887 manufacture in the opinion of 2 quality smiths. V/r Maxey Last edited by Maxey Brantley; 04/17/13 09:26 PM.

Re: Damascus Pattern - What do I have?? Maxey Brantley #321814 04/18/13 08:33 AM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 1,071 Canada gunsaholic Sidelock
gunsaholic Sidelock Joined: May 2011 Posts: 1,071 Canada	PM sent.

Re: Damascus Pattern - What do I have?? Maxey Brantley #321819 04/18/13 09:46 AM
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,815 Likes: 4 Republic of Texas Stallones Sidelock
Stallones Sidelock Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,815 Likes: 4 Republic of Texas	Send me some pictures and I will halp identify it. l.stallones@centurytel.net Last edited by Stallones; 04/18/13 09:46 AM.

Re: Damascus Pattern - What do I have?? Maxey Brantley #321823 04/18/13 10:04 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 97 Ohio Orry Sidelock
Orry Sidelock Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 97 Ohio	Here you are Maxey . . .

Re: Damascus Pattern - What do I have?? Maxey Brantley #321824 04/18/13 10:12 AM
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,815 Likes: 4 Republic of Texas Stallones Sidelock
Stallones Sidelock Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,815 Likes: 4 Republic of Texas	There are about three types of Damascus in this barrel. I will defer to Drew Hause to explain it. You see this occassionally, likely finishing up a run of blanks for some guns to be shipped and not very particular about the aesthetics.. Last edited by Stallones; 04/18/13 01:59 PM.

Re: Damascus Pattern - What do I have?? Maxey Brantley #321825 04/18/13 10:13 AM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 71 Maxey Brantley OP Sidelock
OP Maxey Brantley Sidelock Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 71	Thanks to everyone that offered assistance....so, what do I have? V/r Maxey

Re: Damascus Pattern - What do I have?? Maxey Brantley #321828 04/18/13 10:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,430 Likes: 315 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,430 Likes: 315 AZ but dreaming of KS	It's a somewhat inconsistent but nice 3 Iron; Damas Crolle', Hufnagle, or Oxford. Probably not quite 'English Best'. I would agree with Leighton that the barrel joiner didn't do the best job matching the tube patterns. Love the rib! 3 Iron 'English Best' refinished by Paul Stevens More examples courtesy of Bro. Helsley here http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/20258609 Last edited by Drew Hause; 04/18/13 10:42 AM. https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: Damascus Pattern - What do I have?? Maxey Brantley #321833 04/18/13 11:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,430 Likes: 315 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,430 Likes: 315 AZ but dreaming of KS	This is a Richards and Son-Taunton Leighton refinished. Again, nice 3 Iron barrels but the patterns aren't the best match. Aesthetically (which has nothing to do with strength but is reflected is cost/value), with 'Best' crolle damascus, every scroll should match, every ribband match, every inch breech to muzzle (very difficult to accomplish as the tube is ground thinner) should match. The artistry and skill involved is incredible. Last edited by Drew Hause; 04/18/13 11:04 AM. https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: Damascus Pattern - What do I have?? Maxey Brantley #321878 04/18/13 06:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,553 NH Franc Otte Sidelock
Franc Otte Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,553 NH	Hi Max' that looks like a Gibbs, is it ? Man, it must've been tough to make two tubes that matched well.Did they have a pile of them on hand, & looked around for two as close as possible...or was your second bbl your second barrel,whether it matched or not?..I s'pose the $$ got you a better match.Boy, Damascus is amazing. cheers Franc

Re: Damascus Pattern - What do I have?? Maxey Brantley #321881 04/18/13 06:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,430 Likes: 315 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,430 Likes: 315 AZ but dreaming of KS	I count 5 full size scrolls between two 1/2 scrolls; Steve Culver would count 5 zipper welds between the ribband end straight welds. Either way that means SIX IRON. Have never seen an English made 6 iron, nor a 6 iron that was not 'Turkish' Max: could you please send me high resolution full size images of several sections of the barrels by jpg attachment to revdoc2@cox.net? Last edited by Drew Hause; 04/19/13 01:36 PM. https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

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