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#310285 01/21/13 09:43 PM
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I am gathering the reloading components for my old Mauser Sporter that has the .318 bore (it slugs nearly .319).

And I spotted this Hornady bullet that looks suitable, have any here tried it ?

http://www.hornady.com/store/32-Cal-.321-170-gr-FP/

TIA

The thread on the old '98 is here http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=291119&page=1

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I use woodleighs in mine. They still make them at .318 diameter. Shot a nice black bear with it afterwards. I know nothing of the hornady.

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Originally Posted By: postoak
I am gathering the reloading components for my old Mauser Sporter that has the .318 bore (it slugs nearly .319).

And I spotted this Hornady bullet that looks suitable, have any here tried it ?

http://www.hornady.com/store/32-Cal-.321-170-gr-FP/

TIA Thanks for posting- answers my question on another posting about Mausers in this section. I thought the 7.9x57mm (rounded to 8mm for the M98 rifle- was at .323, but it must be .318-- I believe the .35 Whelan is close to the 9.3mm in NBD, but what is the NBD for the .338 Win Mag-- a pal has one in a 1959 Model 70--nice rifle, but recoil is way greater than in my heavier G&H square brdige Mauser in .35 Whelan- 1936 era--both should suffice for elk and moose however, also the 8mm with the right bullet configuration--

The thread on the old '98 is here http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=291119&page=1


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I tried Remington's 8mm Mauser factory load which uses 170gr .321 bullets but this was not accurate in my 8x57 I rifle (a rebarreled Mannlicher Schoenauer M1910). Then I found and bought a batch of RWS 196gr .318 bullets and had them handloaded by a local gunsmith. The accuracy in my rifle is excellent.

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Postoak,
You can easily size .321" bullets to .318"(or .319"),I do this for some of my rifles. If a .321" bullet fits into a case fired in your rifle and not sized,you can use it w/o sizing to .318".The 196gr bullets noted above are great,just a good bit more expensive.
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Those are bullets made for the 32 Winchester Special. They are also for the 32 Remington (SemiAuto Rifle).
Both of which I load as well.
FWIW,,the 32Rem is supposed to have a groove diameter of .319/320. But I haven't slugged mine to find out. These 321 jacketed bullets work fine. 8mm Numbu bullets (102gr LRN)do as well for plinker loads.

I've used the 32Win Spec bullets in a .318 8mm Mauser cal (88 sporter) and found that if you back off on the loads,,use minimum or near minimum loads in 8x57, they are more accurate.

Perhaps the bullets themselves are of a lighter weight jacket or overall construction and they just can't be pushed as fast. Maybe it's just their shape,,I don't know, just guessing.

But that's my experience.
Perhaps the thinner jacket .321 dia collapses to the .318 groove much easier too than a heavier built one. Maybe too easily and it gets roughed up a bit causing poor accuracy when pushed along too fast.
Again just my guesses.

I use standard 8x57 (.323) loading dies.
Neck sizing only. Plus I do not expand the neck.
The expander button is removed and replaced with one from a 25cal (IIRC) so it doesn't do anything but carry the decapping pin.
The sized only neck has what I feel is perfect friction fit/pull for the smaller dia bullet.
I'm sure that would vary die to die.

You could always just reduce the dia of the .323 expander button too.

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Kutter,
Thats pretty much my experience, with these bullets also;but they are satisfactory.I load 8x57I,IS,IR,IRS,and 8x72R with normal 8x57 dies (with or w/o expander as appropriate), just as you do.The bullet in a fired case trick works with .323" bullets also. They can also be sized to .318"( this is within .005");I do this sometimes when I need a little "harder" bullet.
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Postoak,

I cast my own bullets for about 15 different calibers....I cast using pure linotype for hardness, and gas check most of my bullets allowing me to drive them near or at jacketed bullet speeds without leading and with 'superb' accuracy....for hunting the hollow point lead gas checked bullets are great.....

For the .32/8mm Caliber some very good moulds are available and many of the older moulds, which I collect, are available on ebay and other outlets....if you watch the auctions from time to time.....

You can size the .32/8mm's at .320, .319 or .321 or whatever suits your gun, allowing you to experiment for accuracy with your specific rifle and load...I always size cast bullets one or two thousandth's over bore diameter for best accuracy........In the .32 range I load for the 32-40 Marlin sized @ .319 or .320, bore is .318.......32 Winchester Special sized @ .323, bore is .321.....old 8mm's sized @ .320, bore is .318 and so forth.....

Bottom line is you can easily produce some nice "tailored" accurate bullets and have some fun doing it, I've been doing it for about 55 years or so, since I was a kid, and enjoy casting quite a bit......

Bullet mould of choice for the 8mm would be Ideals old mould number 320378, gas checked the bullet weighs out at 235 grains, gas checked and lubed, if you want a heavier bullet....it's a long bullet and flies good at lower speeds........

Other moulds of various weights are also good....such as Ideal mould number 321317, gas checked/lubed the bullet weighs 175 grains......RCBS has available a new mould 32-170 number 55000, gas checked/lubed the bullet weighs 177 grains and is very accurate as well......

All the weights above are as sized and gas checked/lubed, poured with pure linotype and are hard bullets....most of the bullet numbers mentioned are available in a hollow point version for hunting.....the mould would have the same number followed by HP......

If you have an interest in casting your own bullets, pick up a copy of Lyman's Bullet Casting Handbook, available everywhere or online......Just thought maybe you might have an interest.....?......



Here's a few of my .32/8mm bullets....


The bullets on the left are cast from the RCBS mould 32-170.....









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Buffalo arms makes .318 bullets in 150, 170, 175, and 200 grains. I have some on hand but have yet to load or shoot any.

http://www.buffaloarms.com/300_329_Diameter_jacketed_bullets_pr-4178.aspx?CAT=4178

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Wow!

I am overwhelmed by all the extremely detailed and excellent advice !

I will be digesting it over the next few days.

Thank you one and all.


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