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Are there any members of this forum in New York State who would like to be part of a pro-Second Amendment movement? Please contact me and we'll have a chat.
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Your notice perhaps more inviting if you said which direction of your pro-Second movement. A distinguishing mark of imperial politics is endless dialogue without a universally accepted conclusion. Americans express their originalist and reformed choices through the laws they make every day. If you've a new wrinkle to protect gun rights, all members should want to hear it.
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smoke: here is a report on the lastest development re the nys safe act: http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/s...fe-act-20160620sounds like the fat lady done sang on dat one...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Ah,good responses from two of our strongest advocates for government intervention and gun control. Ed, how is your pick Bloomberg doing in the presidential race?
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Canada and US through their legislatures and courts have expressed their citizen's wishes about government intervention and gun control, James. Neither is moving toward less gun control, and all analyses of trends begins with studies of movements.
You and I may wish for an earlier time of less regulation when shooting and bringing home meat was venerated in our communities. I do. Another generation has made it barely tolerable to disgusting---hell, you know what happened: all downhill.
I noted in Ed's above on the New York Safe Act that the young Cuomo made a similar point to his father's electrifying Democratic convention speech about abortion televised across the nation.
He said who was he as a practising Catholic and governor of all the people of New York to say what others should do when we as Catholics aren't following the church rules on abortion ourselves.
To address an unprecedented epidemic of violence---and the violence of abortion is similarly germane to this issue--- here's the younger Cuomo's explanation of the Safe Act:
“This decision is a victory for common sense gun control laws in New York and across the nation. In 2013, New York rose to the occasion and passed the toughest gun control laws in the nation. We came together, both Democrats and Republicans, to enact strict gun control measures because we fundamentally believed that we could both protect our communities while safeguarding the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun owners in our state. We continue to hold this view, which was validated by the U.S. Supreme Court’s actions."
Members don't need reminding that easing is unthinkable in a climate of fear manufactured by politicians often for selfish needs. NRA is the major guarantor of US gun rights. Not doing anything stupid to make regulations worse seems best medicine in Canada
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Sporting Classics Daily reprinted this morning a story written by Gene Hill called "The Day They Took My Guns Away". I recommend it to everyone who frequents this site, especially those who think we need more gun control laws.
Nothing the government gives you is free.
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well, we certainly dont need anymore federal gun laws...less would in fact result in a major federal gubnment cost savings, with no ill effect, except to add more people to the unemployment rolls...
however, as the second, ninth and tenth amendments indicate: the states retain their right to regulate internal affairs, so long as that regulation does not conflict with the constitution or its amendments...
so far, with rare exception, challenges at the federal level, to state gun control statutes have been rejected...
if new yorkers dont like their states laws, then let them appeal to their state courts for relief...as it is none of the feds bidness..
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Read the first page Dave Weber put on this thread King.
"Informational additions to this thread that will help us preserve our 2nd Amendment rights are welcomed and appreciated.
I will move any post from this thread that does not appear to be headed toward that target.
Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Quoting and praising that dirtbag anti gun Comrade Coumo is NOT helping anyone here in America preserve the Second Amendment. You are progressive anti gun foreigner who has many times spoken against the NRA and its winning "The Only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun !" . We here in America do not need help from YOU even if you think its your "new job" to get us in the same rigamarole of laws Canada is stuck with !
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Hillary For Prison 2018
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Dave arbitrates within reason. My posts keep as close to preserving the Second Amendment as most members here. They do not engage in partisan and personal attacks. My last addressed a danger to the Second (of any interpretation) of fear and growing gun violence while pro and con of the enduring debate see little being done because of hung governance.
As a member of our international board who lived and worked in your country for many years, and cares for it immensely and with great affection in these parlous times, I have said the NRA is the only major guarantor of gun rights and have criticized it as I have with our NFA when I considered it insensitive to our particular interests. I don't denigrate anyone for how they vote.
You should not need to be reminded that I'm not a "foreigner" on the board. Our host has invited members as equals from around the world to contribute to the forums---and they do. It should not have passed your notice that members from outside the United States always contribute information and opinions without the name-calling and rudeness you've exhibited here.
That's one of Dave's rules, too.
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