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Originally Posted By: Sharpsrifle
Having followed the threads on SS and DblGun titled "Caveat Emptor" regarding Mr. Gould's previous dealings as seller, it appears that the old saying about "what goes around comes around" came around sooner rather than later once he became the buyer. There's a certain symmetry to this one.


Superficially perhaps, but here are the key differences:

1. Mr Sims refused to take the guns back; Mr. Vella had (and has) the option to return the case.
2. Mr Vella wanted me to pay to have the case restored; I don't want the guns repaired, I just want my purchase price back.
3. I have pictures of the undisclosed defects; Mr. Vella never provided any pictures to substantiate his claims.
4. Mr Sims cheated Gunbroker out of their commission; I sold these guns off my own website.
5. Mr. Sims is not an FFL holder yet he appears to be wheeling and dealing in guns. I am.


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I'm new here and have a couple of questions for Mr. Gould:

It is not clear how Mr. Sims cheated Gunbroker from their commission. Did you not purchase them through the website? If not, how were they purchased?

Secondly, as far as I know, you can sell a firearm without an FFL. The following is from the Gunbroker site:
"Here is exactly what the ATF 'Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide' (ATF P 5300.4) says:
(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label."

If you are an FFL holder, then I believe all laws were followed.

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1. He closed the auctions and I sent him a check.

2. You can't buy and sell for profit without an FFL.


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Mr. Gould,

1. Just curious...why didn't you bid through Gunbroker? At least they could then be your mediators to solve the issues.

2. So, you mean to say that all members on Gunbroker Auction Arms either have a license to sell or are selling their guns for a loss???? I find that hard to believe. Or do you mean to imply that Mr. Sims is in the business of selling without a license - which I agree is against the law?

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Russ,
crop and size your photos so they are viewable. Cant tell jack form what you have posted.


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Originally Posted By: doublegunhq
1. He closed the auctions and I sent him a check.
2. You can't buy and sell for profit without an FFL.


So, if I sell my guns, it has to at a loss or else I have violated the law?
I can't place my guns on GB, and ship them FFL to FFL?

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Mr. Gould is wrong on that part. I'm an FFL holder too and the regulations do not state that. You cannot run a buisiness without an FFL. It is very legal for an individual to spot a bargin, buy it and then resell for a profit.The regulations due not state when you cross from hobby to buisiness that requires an FFL, and lots of folks get caught in that grey area. The safest thing to do is to go toe BATF web site and read the rules your self. Never call the BATF as they seem unable to read and understand there own rules. I consistantly find BATF agents giving out bad info regarding the rules and regs. At any rate, feel free to make a few pennies on your sales Pete.
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Originally Posted By: doublegunhq
1. He closed the auctions and I sent him a check.

2. You can't buy and sell for profit without an FFL.


It's my understanding, that you contacted Mr. Sims. And offered him X-amount of dollars for both guns, if he'd end the auction early. Kinda sounds like you where looking for the quick deal. Maybe you got what you paid for. Always two sides to a story.

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This is too precious. Take a look at the feedback for TKSIMS on GB.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewUserFeedback.asp?User=114216

Our friend Master ED filed a negative feedback for this joker, TKSIMS. Didn't that give you a clue?

TKSIMS has sold 3 items and received negatives for 2 of those transactions.
You stick you hand into the bear trap and it takes off you hand. For this you want sympathy?

Pete

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