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Gentlemen, need info on availability of .410 shotshells suitable for British proofed guns and also lengths stocked, ie. 2",2 1/2",
2 3/4"? or 3". Thanks, Terry
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Have you checked with polywad.com?
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Lyalvale Express and Eley also make them if you can find a stockist. Lagopus.....
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Thank you all for the info
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With the exception of the 2", I feel fairly confident using 2 1/2" .410 ammo from the American big three. Most .410s, even light British guns, have fairly thick barrel walls. Although US .410s work at fairly high pressures, I think that British .410s probably work at similar pressures. I, personally, wouldn't be searching for boutique .410 loads unless I had a 2" gun.
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With the exception of the 2", I feel fairly confident using 2 1/2" .410 ammo from the American big three. Most .410s, even light British guns, have fairly thick barrel walls. Although US .410s work at fairly high pressures, I think that British .410s probably work at similar pressures. I, personally, wouldn't be searching for boutique .410 loads unless I had a 2" gun. I agree. I'd get a few dimensions, just for the sake of confirming that the walls are 'good n plenty' then shoot U.S. 2 1/2" if the chambers were thick and of the correct length.
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I wonder about relative pressures between U.S. and European .410 ammo. A friend of mine has a Remingtom 1100 in .410. It will work with American 3" and 2 1/2" Winchester and Remington ammunition becuse it is designed for it as regards pressure to work the action. Now this same gun will most certainly not cycle British 2 1/2" stuff and will not cycle British Eley and Lyalvale Express 3" stuff either except for the odd round; about 2 in 10. It seems that British 3" .410 ammo may generate less pressure than Winchester and Remingtom 2 1/2" stuff. As a consequence I will only use American made .410 stuff in my AyA Number 4 and stick to European ammo in my English .410's. Lagopus.....
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Probably prudent. Some of the light UK 410 s might be thin compared to US guns.
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I wonder about relative pressures between U.S. and European .410 ammo. ... It seems that British 3" .410 ammo may generate less pressure than Winchester and Remingtom 2 1/2" stuff. It seems "pressure" is a nebulous metric with respect to gas-operated shotguns. The reported value is usually the peak chamber pressure and since gas-operated autos work by bleeding off gas off quite a distance forward of the chamber it isn't obvious that a "higher" pressure necessarily indicates a shell's ability to cycle an action.
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