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great,thanks,I'm going to see about ordering it and another I found on line about scotts.rather interested in this Kell engraving,have you heard anything about Holland and Holland possibly having info on guns produced by scott,serial number wise?I'm going to have to start printng out some info I find while surfing net,getting old cant remember where I was on some sites Thanks once again.If i ever get caught up at work.i'll post pictures of Ithica,hopefully this weekend.

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Originally Posted By: duckone
Haven't given much thought as to selling price,what would you offer.


Not an offer...from what I can see I would expect the gun to sell for $300 to $900 bucks....depending on bore condition.

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Originally Posted By: Roy Hebbes
duckone,
Records show that the Scott Excellentia Triplex was in production from 1884-1890.In 1884 Harry Kell was 14 years old joining his fathers business.The most likely engraver of your gun was:
James Charles Scott a member of the Scott Family, who following art studies,focused his outstanding talents on engraving Scott Guns.In 1887 James became head of the family business.
For further info on the Scott family see Douglas Tates book,"The Birmingham Gun Makers." Incuded in the book are some excellent pictures of a "Scott Excellentia Triplex", which I believe at one time resided in my collection.


Roy,

Comparing the engraving of the Excellentia B on page 115 of Tate's "Birmingham Gunmakers" to the engraving of the Lefever "Thousand Dollar Grade" on page 226 of Elliot's book "Uncle Dan Lefever, Master Gunmaker" shows a remarkable similarity. Elliot mentions that the late Lanny Sampson felt the engraver of the Lefever was Alb Brown who taught at the Fine Arts School in Birmingham and also engraved for W & C Scott.

The geese on the left sideplates look almost identical. If not the same engraver, at least the style is the same.

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Fullandfuller, you'll find those same animals on high end Remington 1894s like the E Grades.

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I personally believe that the engraver responsible for the wild life scenes on Excellentias, Premiers, etc was probably James Charles Scott, or at least someone apprenticed to him. I've read accounts that J.C. Scott was a avid naturalist and had a passion for engraving fowl.

I think Albert Brown (A.A. Brown & son) would've been too young to engrave guns in the 1880's, his father Joe Brown might have had a hand in some of these guns, I believe Joe was the instructor at the engraving school. Both Joe and Albert had a talent for carving deep relief oak and ivy fences.

Dustin

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