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The Newton Mauser 1922 Model were marked "made in Germany for Chas. Newton Rifle Corp". I had one marked on the buttplate, and one marked "made in Germany" on the inside curve of the pistol grip. It's been a while since I've looked at one, but it seems the barrels were stamped as well.
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The early 70,000 range would be a build date of 1913. The Mauser factory calibers offered at that time in a standard length action would be 6.5x55 Swede, 6.5x57 or 6.5x58 Portuguese.
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I am again amazed at the knowledge possessed by forum members on this site.Thanks for the input to everyone.
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The Newton Mauser 1922 Model were marked "made in Germany for Chas. Newton Rifle Corp". I had one marked on the buttplate, and one marked "made in Germany" on the inside curve of the pistol grip. It's been a while since I've looked at one, but it seems the barrels were stamped as well. Right, 1922 model now I remember. I also remember sending the one I had with the numbers on the butt to you.
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The rifle is marked on the top of the receiver; Waffenfabrik Mauser A-G Oberndorf A/N The Model 1922 had the Sauer assembly number on the buttplate; usually a 5 digit number in the late 20,000 range. The Made in Germany.....marks were on the Model 1922. The serial number is the Mauser number and Niedner was not involved with this rifle. The Mauser caliber on the side of the receiver is 6,5 and after the serial number "P.P." for Portugese Patrone which is 6.5x58.
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So the rifles were ordered by Newton in the 6.5 PP chambering and rechambered when they got to his shop?
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Yes, rechambered by Newton or under his direction by Adolph or some other gunsmith. I am not sure if Newton had a "shop" at that time. He located at 42-44 Niagara in Buffalo when he started to make his First Model 1916 and I am not sure what date he started at that location. That building is no longer standing altho he moved to the Jewett address in early 1917. That building is still being used by a fabricating firm and I was able to go thru it and take pictures of the area Newton used at that time. Larry Wales
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One of the interesting facets of the research that partly led to the idea of Newton rechambering Mauser rifles was a statement on the side of the box cover of the first or at least one of the earliest ammo boxes. The cartridges were loaded with a 123 grain bullet as opposed to most later boxes with 129 grain bullets. Newton first proposed the 256 with the 123 garin. The statement read as follows; “ For use in rifles calibered in .256 Newton manufactured or chambered by the undersigned.” The undersigned being Newton Arms Co. Inc. Larry
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I believe if Newton had been born in 1925 we would all be hearing a lot more about his rifles. He really was an innovator with a great inquisitive spirit,not too much of a businessman though.Has anyone found any of his .40 caliber rifles? Sounds like a real powerhouse and I imagine it would have been deadly on both ends in those light rifles.
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I have only talked to one person who claimed to have a 40 Newton altho when I pressed him about it, the facts he supplied did not seem to support the rifle as being original. I was able to purchase a 1922 Fred Adolph rifle in .40 Newton. It would have been made just after the time Newton put out his chamber dimention chart for his calibers in 1919. The chart lists the 40 with a .408 bore and this rifle has that bore size along with the other chamber dimentions listed in Newton's chart. Larry
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