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Speaking of the old and new in the SAME model of Spanish guns; I have a higher grade Uggie made in 1969. The engraving is much better executed than in the same model today which also has a bit less engraving if one looks close.
I've noticed the same in other Spanish makers cutting back a wee bit in engraving on new vs. the old same model.
Another example is the Grulla 215. Look at the quality of engraving on the ones that Dakin imported in the 50s compared to the 215s of today.
Last edited by 2holer; 06/22/11 08:05 PM.
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Roger, thanks a lot for your contribution. It does make sense that the work was spread out amongst several workmen. Slowly but surely this topic is wringing out some pretty good information.
Keep it up!
When an old man dies a library burns to the ground. (Old African proverb)
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Roger,
I'm sure you're correct. His reference may have been to the compressor. Wine was making things a little fuzzy while we talked, during his stay in SoCal a number of years ago.
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After my recent negative experience with a very well known engraver I think I'm going to say I prefer vintage rather than modern.
Destry
Out there at the crossroads molding the devil's bullets. - Tom Waits
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Destry,
I'm dissapointed to hear that you had a negative experience with an engraver. I can understand why you don't want to name names. Unfortunately, your post casts a pall of suspicion on every "well known" engraver since we don't know the name or circumstances.
You may consider filing a grevance with the FEGA board if the engraver is a member.
Regards,
RB
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Roger, you imply that guns sent to engravers are engraved "hard". However, I am led to believe that some engravers anneal shotgun receivers or have them annealed, engrave them, and then send them to be hardened. What is the real story? I am in the middle of a project right now and would like some information. Bill Murphy
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high quality engraving. doesn't matter if old or new. But, nothing worse than poor quality engraving no matter the vintage.
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Roger,
I find your Glossary superb.
With kind regards,
Jani
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The top 3 grades of Parker,Lefever and L.C. Smith are my favorites. Like the D.M. Lefevers too.Lots of variety and nuance among the guns by different engravers even with guns of the same grade.
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i anneal then polish then engrave.except Rugers i don't anneal them just engrave with a carbide tool.i think Kornbrath was the most talented of the engravers of the first half of the 20th century.most were good but piece work,, engraving to a price, caused a lot of sub par engraving.as always just my opinion. mc
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