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I am not sure if posting a link to an auction site violates forum policy, but this is done strictly for educational purposes - I wouldn't want anyone with an interest to miss such a rarity. http://www.naturabuy.fr/Paire-Ideals-AS-DE-PIQUE-item-366998.html
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"Ace of Spades". You'd have to go to France and get them; won't be sent abroad, says the seller. Also says they're unfired.
With the opening system vs the standard top lever, I wonder how handy they would be to use as a pair on driven birds, if one found onesself in a "hot corner"? I've wondered the same thing about Darnes.
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I look regularly at Natura Bay and these are on offer more then 1 yaer.
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Would someone give the nomenclature and function of the "onions" which appear to be attached to after side of bar and inlet in the stock head. Have not seen these before probably because I am limited to one ancient 202 Ideal and a very modern Robust.
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Magnificent is right, probably the nicest set of Ideals on earth. If there is a nicer pair out there, I would love to see them!
Larry,
I can operate an Ideal or a Darne just as fast as anyone can operate a gun with a top lever, side lever, jones underlever etc. All it takes is practice and repetition.
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L.Brown, the underlever is just as fast as the top lever  I know it because a single shot of almost the samy system is a very common gun here, and I've seen some folks do some very fast shooting with one like, press the opening lever with right hand middle finger, shake, the gun opens itself, the shell is ejected, in the meantime the left hand travels to the pocket for the new load and back, drop the shell in, close in the same motion with shouldering, fire. It takes not much more time, actually, than operating a pump. With this in mind, I wonder if the Ideal double could in fact be faster than the traditional design
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wood´s not very special ! best, Mike
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Nice stuff. Interesting reverse side clip arrangement. Probably not going to get on my Christmas list my puts together.
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Magnificent is right, probably the nicest set of Ideals on earth. If there is a nicer pair out there, I would love to see them!
Larry,
I can operate an Ideal or a Darne just as fast as anyone can operate a gun with a top lever, side lever, jones underlever etc. All it takes is practice and repetition.
Dustin Dustin, have you ever shot driven with a loader? If we're talking traditional driven shooting, a pair of guns and a loader, the question is only partially how fast you can get the gun open. The other part is how fast the loader can reload, so that your gun is ready quickly after you've fired two more rounds with the other one of the pair. I've shot a flurry (76 targets in 2 1/2 minutes) with a top lever pair and a loader. I can't imagine that it would be that fast with a pair of Darnes, although maybe if both were practiced with Darnes; more likely I'd think with the Ideal. But when loading, you have gravity working on your side with a standard break action, which you don't have with a Darne. You'll have to come to the UP Shoot and give the flurry a go with a pair of Darnes.
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I like Ideal's for its simplicity, what means reliability in this case. Its very high grade Ideal's according to MF catalogs, but there is nothing inside and outside to worth 15K Euros each gun IMO. Second, personally I hate silver finish brand new guns whatever they brand are 
Geno.
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