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I have a side by side .22/9mm shotshell garden gun. The shotshell is center fire not rimfire (darn) and I am hoping to find a source for these. If not any suggestions regarding making up some shells or rechambering would be appreciated.
Thanks
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What an interesting combination. You say the shotshell is a 9mm c/f but could it possibly be chambered for a .38 or .357. You can load these with small shot and it makes an excellent 'rating' gun.
Is the .22 smooth or rifled?
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I have one in .410/.22. Saving for my first grandchild.
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The .22 is rifled.
I did a chamber cast of both. The shotshell case dia. is .399 and the lenght is approx. 1.5 " . The bore dia. is .336.
I was told that it was chambered for a .38 shot but that case is a little too small in dia.. It chambers and seats ok, just a little loose. It should fire. I am thinking of gettin some CCI shotshells loads and trying them but I want to be careful with the pressure. I have no idea of what a 9mm shotshell generates so until I get an idea I will hold off.
I do hope to find some 9mmm or someone who can suggest or help make some up. Probaly just wishful thinking on but my part but worth the try.
All in alll it is a pretty neat old firearm and is in good shape.
Mike
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Fiocchi makes 9mm shot cartridges. You may wish to check with them about obtaining some.
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Eley used to load the centerfire .360 shotshell, decades ago. Apparently they were popular in the UK. Maybe someone from that side of the pond will know of a source for new cartridges. Cheers!
Last edited by Roundsworth; 01/10/11 11:57 PM.
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Would a 38 S&W case be a tighter fit than 39 Special? It's a little bigger diameter, if you want to load up some shotshells.
9mm rimfire Garden Gun wont't work at all, as you have found out.
A friend has a small ss shotgun with 10.4mm stamped on the chamber, a cast revealed that it is chambered for the .410 2"
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The 9 m/m smooth bore garden gun was available in the U.K. A Parker Hale catalogue circa 1930,refers to the gun as the,"Three Bore [9 m/m] Garden gun.It was sold as a low cost single shot bolt action gun. I believe the cartridges were imported into the U.K from Europe illustrations appear to be C.F.
Webley and Scott also sold a;3 Bore Bolt action garden gun, but this gun used R.F shells.
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Hello
The 9.1x40mm was an early European Shotshell intended for small game hunting.
There was also a 9mm Centerfire shotshell. Primarily made in Spain
Case dimensions are:
Rim 0.436
Base 0.391
Mouth 0.370
Length 1.750
Closest case that I could think of was the 357 Maximum with a Speer shot cartridge.
Mike
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