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What these punches stand for, any idea? The gun is nice Belgian boxlock made in 1930 with fake sign on top rib 'Faure Le Page, Paris', but its fake, 'cause sign executed by unskilled man. 
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Can't find anything in any of my books on Belgian proof marks. I wonder if they denote the degree of choke similar to that on Spanish guns. Lagopus.....
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LePage made their own guns, but also imported from Belgium. Wonder if that one might've been marked after LePage imported it.
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I have some doubts about it. Hold tight in your chairs  
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I believe that it is a fake for the following reasons:
- If it had been marked in France, it would have shown "Canons" because there are two on that gun.
- "The proof marks" are unknown to me and my books. They vaguely resemble the old St Etienne Palms.
As a note, I believe that Faure Lepage in Paris has nothing to do with Lepage in Liege, at least in the late 19th and 20th centuries.
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WC, I would not swear to it and I do not have a French double handy to check, but I believe a common notation on the barrel flats of French guns is "canon de surete"--singular. (I have to start writing this stuff down somewhere!) In which case the barrel notation on the gun shown would not prove much of anything.
Checking further, I find both singular and plural used. "Canon acier . . . " on an ad for the Manufrance Ideal; "canon de" followed by various barrel lengths on material from Darne.
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Larry, you are right. Only one barrel mentioned on the markings of "Frenchies" I have handy:    JC
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Here is a bit about Faure LePage http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20francaise...lepage%20gb.htmAnd if you scroll down, you will see some of the Faure LePage guns were proofed in Liege. Not to say he had any connection to the LePages operating in Belgium. Larry is correct, it is "canon de surete"  Geno, do you have any other pictures of this gun? Pete
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Hello guys,
"canon de surete" refers to one barrel, they are made one at a time, after all. Canon Faure lepage, would imply that Faure-Lepage only made one barrel which makes no sense.
In english, "Safety barrel", vs "barrels by xxx".
Of course, Faure-Lepage sold guns made in Belgium: most all the Paris retailers (Guyot, Gastinne, Pirlet-Badin,...) did so. I only sincerely doubt of the connection to Lepage in Liege.
Last time I stopped by 8 Rue de Richelieu, the Faure-Lepage shop was a going out of business clothing store. Sigh...
Look at the good write-up on Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faur%C3%A9_Le_Page
Lepage came from Normandy.
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