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Saw the Webley Patent for a round breech block action some time ago - Translation-bored.
Decided to try something similar, but sorta Alex Henry style.
Got some bits and started working. Can some one post a couple photos of "progress" to date for me? Many thanks
And please, only one snide remark per person.
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send me the pics and I will post them for you.
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The old circular breechblock has been around for a looooong, long time. The late Frank DeHaas's 'Vault lock' design is somewhat similar.
Please be aware that should you make one of these type of actions, they are a very weak design and should not be used for anything more powerful than a typical Black Powder 'Rook Rifle' cartridge. I would even be reluctant to touch off a 32/20 with a Black Powder load in one.
That's the reason why there were so few made by anyone. They simply weren't up to the job.
Using modern rounds will batter the rear of the action so hard it will soon deform or split.
Harry
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I know of an H&H built .240 flanged magnum on the round block webely....apparently Holland felt they were strong enough for this round and it has modern pressures to be sure.
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Sent the photos to SKB - Thanks
Yup, the design has been around a long time, at least 1902, the date of the Webley patent.
Mine (if I can, and it does) will be 22 RF.. well, maybe...17RF?
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the webely is just as strong as any falling block just easyer to make the breech block.do you have larger photos. mc
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Will soon have some more progress to show, will try to post them myself and larger.
Take a deep breath.....
Oh, anyone notice the unusual/odd thing I am doing on this? (besides the project itself)
Hint-very Alex Henry.
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Great project! - I've been interested in these little actions since Ross Seyfried wrote about one in .455 Webley [in DGJ]; I think he shot a cow elk with it! There's no engineering reason they should be any weaker than a square breech, and good modern steel and heat treatment is available now as well. I can't see much in the pics, but is your Alex Henry "oddity" an external lock? Left or right-hand?
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Well, not sure that I can agree that they are as strong - The round back has a spreading action as well as the push, so...
Many (a lot) Alex Henry rifles were external lock, as one will be,
and yup, left hand lock, also a Henry trait.
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