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Speak for yourself, and not for the numerous well informed hunters and collectors of the world who know perfectly well who Jerry Fisher is, and know that he may well be the premier stockmaker in the world, in addition to his other talents. This work is just plain beautiful, and a monument to the skills of the individuals who contributed to the rebirth of a wrecked or at least seriously damaged rifle.
I agree that the addition of the marks or signatures of those individuals would increase its value.
That aside, to raise quibbles about names and offer clumsily veiled aspersions about provenance are more than simple demonstrations of ignorance for which one might be forgiven.
Too bad you felt it necessary to relieve yourself in the water bucket.

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Thanks for all the comments, here is a picture of myself and Jerry Fisher looking at the Gibbs in progress, in his shop in Bigfork Montana


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The new sight before polish and blacking.


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Sorry for my ignorance, but that's what I drop about, this fine gun has to bear Fisher name on it. Evaluation is a market question, put it at Sothby and we'll see.


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Geno, your comments are always welcome, I display more ignorance than insight quite often.
Jerry has been marking them with a simple stamp " JERRY FISHER" inside the inletting for the last 15 years or so.


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When you get to this level of gun the "judge the gun not the name" is as important as ever. Jerry Fisher does extremely high quality work, as good or better than the original maker. His restoring a gun should not detract from the guns' value.

British guns have always been back to a smith for a complete going over and we accept this as normal maintanance with no decrease in value. The new site may have a minor impact on value because it is different than the original but weither it is a plus or a minus is open for debate. The quality is there and the form and function fits the gun well. Take that gun out into the bush for a few years and you would be hard pressed to not view it as an original.

This gun is a peice of art as well as a fine tool. Just wish I had one in my collection. For that matter I would need a new sholder and back to shoot it well. Hard to get old after a fun youth.

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Jan. 1st 2007.A note to Barry Lee'Forward this on to Mr Fisher please, Wash your G/D****d Dirty Hands when you handle those Real Old Victorian Weapons!!!!!!We Members of the 'Dirty Hands Soc,'are supposed to wear a pair of Museum Curator's'Cotton-Kondoms' when we handle these Museum Quality'Guns & Rifles!!!!! Congrat's to Fisher,Hands(Barry that is ,not Jerry's), Turnbuckel, for the 'Nearly as good as the Original Colour Case,Doug cant get those really Old Cadaver's for their Bones that the Old Brummie Gunmakers used in their Crucible's for their "Case-Colour's" And lastly,'Johnny Walnut-Seed"for planting that Walnut in the ground,'Oh SO Many Years Ago so that Mr Fisher could take his 7/8lb Magnificent Stock-Blank, and leave 'aprox'5.1/2--6lbs of 'Chips,Dust,Trim-Offs on the Work-shop floor!(These weight's and dimensions may differ depending on which side of the 'Fault-Line' you reside on)...Really a Great Job Chaps'..'Trevallion of Nettleton' aka Crossedchisles.

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Originally Posted By: 400 Nitro Express
Originally Posted By: Barry Lee Hands
... This brings up an interesting point in that his is the third Large Gibbs I have worked on and they have all had similar, but slightly different engraving patterns.


Barry:

Yes, same pattern, but there's always a slight difference that you have to look for to notice. The pattern is Webley's, not Gibbs'.

This rifle is a Webley A & W C 1st Quality model, built for Gibbs. Webley built many double rifles for various retailers, and these rifles were almost always "bought in" complete, as opposed to being stocked and finished by the retailers. You'll find the same pattern on the same model rifle from other retailers like William Evans, Army & Navy, etc., as well as 1st quality models that Webley & Scott retailed themselves. It's Webley's standard engraving pattern for that model.

Congratulations to you and Jerry. It's beautiful work.


Beautifull gun. Is it true this is another Brummie ?

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Beautifull gun. Is it true this is another Brummie ?


Yes, but that isn't a bad thing. I'm a double rifle guy and have been shooting these Webley's for years. They're among the very best boxlock DRs the British ever made.

I've been researching the British double rifle trade makers for quite a while, with emphasis on those from Webley and Harry Leonard (who built many of W. J. Jeffery's double rifles). Both were double rifle specialists to the trade. Webley built double rifles for the trade on five different dedicated DR actions, each of which is unique and easy to identify. The rifle above is an A & W C 1st, which was Webley's best boxlock DR. In my database, I have double rifles built by Webley for Holland & Holland, John Rigby, Lang (Lang was owned by the Webley brothers for a time), William Evans (pre-war DRs almost exclusively from Webley, although I did find one from Wilkes), Army & Navy, Manton, Charles Lancaster, Alexander Henry, George Gibbs, Churchill, Horton, London Sporting Park, etc. My database is organized by the Webley serial number stamped on the barrels. The only ones I've found that I'm fairly certain were stocked and finished by the retailers were one Holland and a couple of Langs.


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