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A buddy of mine has the following question:

"Ok gentleman I have a question that is sure to garner some chatter. I have some money, and am looking to replace my old FIE Citori knock-off with something a little nicer… I’m looking for an 12ga. O/U with 30’ bdl’s, POW grip and a Schnabel forend. Oh, yes, a vintage long tang Superpose would be great. Budget: as of today about $1500 USD and by summer I’ll be up over 2000. (No, this is not a lot of money but what do you want from a school teacher.) What would you all recommend?"

W/O POW grip I would suggest a Beretta 686. Different varieties available for amount suggested. Does he really want POW or round knob? Some folks get the two confused.

Jim

If he was a 'school teacher' in the district I pay taxes in he could afford to order up a custom B-25.

Okay, I'm confused. What's the difference? I thought they were the same thing.

It's a semi-pistol grip in the states. You will hear, of course, how a 'true' POW is more slender and graceful, etc... It's all balony. It's either a staight stock, a full pistol (Perazzi, 525, etc), or something in between and 'semi' covers that well. We don't need Prince of Wales, Duke of Earl, or Larry the Cable Guy.

About the only gun you'll get with a schnabel forend tip will be a sporting clays model and there's nothing wrong with that, but it won't have a POW grip. The schnabel FE and POW grip sort of don't go together. Superposeds were never made with a Schnabel, TMK. A Citori lightning will have the long grip with a round knob, but no schnabel.
Spare me the crap about underpaid teachers! My wife did payroll in a school district in California. I know better.

Jim Legg,
Maybe he's a teacher in a parochial school...you know, where the kids behave, the lay teachers make less than public school but pay no union dues, the education's better... at least that's the way it is 'round here.

Hunter,
If the old Super sounds like gunsmith-trip-in-waiting, how about a Rizzini B ?
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Oops, wrong grip

Ruger sporting with 30barrels can be had for 900 used, i have one and shoot it as well as my Beretta silver pigeon sporting if not better, 686 is a good choice, but not sure you can get one with your budget with 30" barrels.

Spare me the crap is right. If you really think teacher's are over paid, consider this. You pay your electrician, car mechanic and plumber, even your "sanitary engineer" more per hour than you pay the person who spends more time than you do instructing your kids in how to survive in this world.
Elementary and High School teachers put in far more than a 40 hour week and many take money out of their own pockets to pay for the "extras" that the local school board cut from the budget. And they do the work even though classes have 25-30 kids or more when they should have 18...when all levels of ability are lumped together and they have to make lesson plans for three levels of incompetence instead of one...when half the kids don't speak English...when the other half need special ed. which has been cut from funding (again by the idiots on the local school board). Or how about the complaining parents who have taken away the opportunity for teacheers to provide the very structure and discipline that disruptive students will never get at home. In fact, consider the 3rd Grader with a Police "rap sheet" of 10 assault offenses in a school system that's more concerned with being PC than in discipline ... then consider whether you have what it takes to even be a teacher in today's society. Your pay is frozen, contracts are left to rot, your benefits are cut, your class room tools are reduced ... and it's your fault that little johnny can't read or write. You're only correct about one thing ... spare me the crap.