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I recently came across a 16 bore s/s by Josef Mischitz-Ferlach which I am currently drawing a blank on at every turn in terms of finding out more.
The gun is very well and ornately engraved, still in good condition, and with a serial number in the 29'000's if memory serves. It looked to be a sidelock ejector (could have been a boxlock with sideplates however) and I believe was Austrian given the Ferlach reference.
If anyone had any info/thoughts on this, it would be appreciated as intrigued to find out more. Not sure this maker is still in existence regrettably.
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Mischitz is an old Ferlach gunmaking family name. Josef Mischitz was still active in Ferlach after WW2 but I don't know when he went out of business; must have been decades ago. Give us proofmarks and you will get more information.
With kind regards,
Jani
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Last edited by CBL1; 01/19/10 10:27 AM.
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Ferlach proofs overstamped with Birmingham as apparent. What are the marks ahead of the flats on the tubes(stamp of an Eagle?) and near the rib? I'm curious if Mischitz made it or sourced it.
Kind Regards,
Raimey
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A very nice Ferlach double; possibly made for a British occupation officer just after WW2.
I think I see both the date .45 for Ferlach proof of 1945, as well as the code 29 issued to Josef Mischitz by the British after the war.
With kind regards,
Jani
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There appears to be a great deal of pertinent stamps on each tube ahead of the flats near the lower rib. I read the data string to be: "1016.45.D.290.45". I don't see a decimal between the "29.0" but it may be there as it is difficult to see. For some reason that Eagle conjure's up Cap's name. I could easily be mistaken.
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Raimey
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I read the data string to be: "1016.45.D.290.45". I don't see a decimal between the "29.0" but it may be there as it is difficult to see.
rse Correct on all counts - no decimal. Wish I knew what these all signified?
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At the end of WWII in 1945, assuming there were only a couple thousand examples passing thru the Ferlach proofhouse as per the Nitro proof Ferlach stamp/NP sub F, #1016 would have passed thru in Summer of 1945 and as Jani indicated may have been made for a British officer. It was the Brits that established the maker number series. Then post 1954 the longarm was imported into England and there appears to be a date on the left hand corner of the left tube.
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Raimey
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I think I see it now, Jani, "29.3(8??).45 on the left flat in the shadow of the forward lump. Would that mean that he only made 3(or 8) by the time this example passed thru the Ferlach proofhouse?
Kind Regards,
Raimey
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