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Has anyone used Belgiun bluing for damascus barrels? I'm curious as to how well the acid wash etches when this is used in the refinishing process, versus rust bluing? Also, where do you buy logwood? Thanks, Ed
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Thanks David. I don't have a damp box and was thinking the Belgium blue might save some time and offer more consistancy. Maybe more forgiving for the beginner.
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If todays Belgian blue is the same as sold by Herter's many years ago & I think it is, it is an express rust blue. The rust is brought on rapidly by applying the solution, hot, to bbls having the temperature of boiling water. It also contains mercuric chloride which is quite poisinous. I used it years ago, but not on damascus. I have no idea how it would respond to the treatment to bring out the pattern. This is not in anyway related to trappers dye, or to spotting blues such as Prussian Blue, commonly used in hand fitting parts.
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Miller, thanks for the clarification between the two. It was Prussian blue we used to check bearings. It came in a small tube and only squeezed out a small amount and spread it sparingly on the surface to be checked.
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Belgian (or express bluing) would just cover up the damascus pattern, same as slow rust bluing would.
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I may just have to try it and see what happens. I can't think of any reason why the etchant would not work on the express blue.
Mr Hughes: Great article in the American Rifleman on grinding your own screw drivers.
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I have recently got a set of damascus barrels and used my rust blue formula on one barrel and brown on the other, the rust blue will not bring up the pattern like the brown will, I have only done a few coats and already you can see a lack of pattern on the rust blue side.
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not to steal the post from eeb, but barrel browner, isn't the difference between the two meaning the rust blue being boiled for 5 minutes then carded and the browned just using hot water to card. I have never browned a barrel as the barrels I am doing (L.C. Smiths) were rust blued. On some that I have done, the Damascus pattern is hidden until it is dipped in the etchant for 5 seconds and carded again and this brings out the pattern. On those recently blued Stub Twist barrels they were rusted 5 times and etched 2 times. Humidity was between 83%-93% and twice left overnight.
The etchant is 15% etchant and 85% distilled water.
Also I remember now that for the Logwood dye, mixing it and taking a sample in a clear glass container, if you can not see through it then it is right.
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I've purchased logwood here: http://www.aurorasilk.com/
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