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Emil Flues was one an American original. He stands as one of the great gun designers, gun smiths of the early 20th century. Census tract data for Emil Flues: 1870 - Blumfield, Saginaw, Michigan 1880 - Blumfield, Saginaw, Michigan 1890 - census data not available due to fire 1900 - no hits(not unusual) 1910 - Ithaca Ward 5, Tompkins, New York / 316 East Falls Street 1920 - Brooklyn Assembly District 10, Kings, New York / roomer - 63 Berkley(sp?) Place 1930 - Buffalo, Erie, New York / 27 Victoria Ave 1870 - Emil is 9 years old 1880 - Emil is 18 years old 1910 - Emil is 48, with a wife. Occupation listed as Experimental Gun Maker 1920 - Emil is 58 and in a rooming house with his wife. Occupation listed, Gun Maker 1930 - Emil is 68,wife and sister-in-law. Occupation repair. Industry firearms. Pete
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Here's a gun marked only E. F. Flues Maker, no address. Under the buttstock it is marked No. 1. This single trap has the curious Flues Patent removeable vent rib. A button at the muzzle can be compressed and the rib, not the posts, then slides of forward.
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Does anyone remember Robert Chambers who was a very vigorous promoter of Mr. Flues? He was a bit cranky in his postings, but this gun seems to bear out the ability of Mr. Flues,more so than the Flues model Ithaca to my mind. Yes, I remember Mr. Chambers. I thought he had a lot of knowledge to share with the group, but, unfortunantly, as often happens, a certain few jumped all over his postings and I think he simply got tired of swimming upstream, so he apparently dropped out.
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Yes, I remember Mr. Chambers. I thought he had a lot of knowledge to share with the group, but, unfortunantly, as often happens, a certain few jumped all over his postings and I think he simply got tired of swimming upstream, so he apparently dropped out. Chief, Mr. Chambers was a knowledgeable guy alright, but he did not just get tired of the flak and drop out...He went APE over any reasonable question of his research or pronouncements of fact and left when he became embarrassed over trying to finnesse a factoid he tried to slip by our experts. Pity, because all it was about was a mis-spelling of some french word...Geo
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This single trap has the curious Flues Patent removeable vent rib. A button at the muzzle can be compressed and the rib, not the posts, then slides of forward. A major manufacturer should take note. That could be the biggest thing since screw in choke tubes.
Dodging lions and wasting time.....
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Ken, I have often wondered "Why" on the removable rib. Yes, the patent gives some explanation, but very little. Thought it might be to "change ribs and heights" for different types of shooting. ??
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I think this BBS is much poorer by the absence of Mr. Chambers. I enjoyed his contributions and the knowledge he shared. A number of years ago there was another contributor who was harrassed off the old Gunshop.com BBS. He was an Austrian as I recall, name of Franzjoz or Franzzoj...I can't remember the spelling of his name. That was a loss, but a triumph for the kibbitzers. I know a Dixie GENTLEMAN who no longer posts - another victory for the small people and pot-stirrers.
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I find it very interesting how people can get so uptight, this is just a computer forum. I think the guy who says "relax we are all experts here" has his shit together! Tim
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1883 Bay City Directory. Flues is listed as a confectioner, age 21. Flues Patents, I may be missing some... 546516, 9/17/1895, Cocking and Safety Mechanism for Breakdown Guns, Bay City, MI 980174, 2/19/1910, Single-Trigger Mechanism for Firearms, Ithaca, NY 1070441, 8/19/1913, Cocking and Safety Mechanism for Breakdown Guns, Ithaca, NY 1071994, 9/02/1913, Safety Mechanism for Breakdown Gun, Ithaca, NY 1160157, 11/16/1915, Rib for Gun-Sights, Ithaca, NY 1312170, 8/05/1919, Automatic Compensating Bolt for Firearms of the Breakdown Type, Buffalo, NY 1450496, 4/23/1923, Single-Barrel Firearm of the breakdown type, Buffalo, NY Pete
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I live very near there. I'll ask and look about in the historical society archives. The addresses given on water street are probably gone, but maybe not. Blumfield twshp is not really near downtown Bay City. If anyone knew his religion, it would help. The German immigrants around here were/are pretty parochial. Each little settlement had a church and surrounding family homes. Bay City was populated by 4 ethnic waves, German, Polish, Irish, and Italian. Each settled a different area in the city. , During WWl, German children were told to pass themselves off as Poles because of harassment (according to my Grandmother).
Out there doing it best I can.
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