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Terry,
That's sort of what Kimber did about 10-12 years ago with the abundance of Swedish Mausers flooding the US. I was able to by high condition Swede's for $69-89 at retail so Kimber must have bought them for less.
They either rebarreled them for the .308 family of cartridges or recontoured existing barrels and removed the military sights for the 6.5x55's they sold. They redid the blot handles and D&T'd for scopes, put them in Ramline synthetic stocks and out the door they went.
The 6.5's with the military barrels went for around $300-350 the rebarreled ones (.243, 7mm-08 &.308) went for a bit more.
I bought one of the 6.5's, I still have it as a backup/loaner rifle, it shoots into an 1-1.5" with that old stiff barrel. I have read that the ones that were rebarreled have experienced setback problem, that action wasn't designed for those pressures.
You rarely see customs built on the M96 Mauser, probably one of the best finished military actions ever and perfectly capable of doing what it was designed for. I have a couple of actions still around here, they can be rebarreled for a few classic chamberings such as the .300 Savage, .35 Remington, .257 Roberts and of course the 6.5x55. Brownells sells pre-threaded barrels for all these.
I also saw other, less known names, doing the same deal as Kimber, they sold at gunshow around here for less than $300 with a bad scope already mounted.
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Many Sedgelys have checkering patterns like a 54 Winchester and a pretty thin in places. Are these Model 54 stocks we see on Sedgelys? No, the Sedgley stocks were made by Sedgley using European Thin Shell Walnut. IMO the Sedgley stocks are a step above the Winchester ones.
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I have a Bannerman 1896 Krag with a pistol grip stock. The stock originally had finger groves on the fore-end, but it is a one-piece stock. The stock was apparently made specifically for the converted Krag rifle. It is most decidedly not a high-end piece. It has a WW1-surplus Springfield barrel cut off at the breech and re-chambered for the 30-40 cartridge. The reamer for the Krag chamber did not enter the barrel in proper alignment, because one side of the chamber wall is not quite right. In spite of all that, the rifle is reasonably accurate and functions very well as a hunting rifle.
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Terry,
That's sort of what Kimber did about 10-12 years ago with the abundance of Swedish Mausers flooding the US. I was able to by high condition Swede's for $69-89 at retail so Kimber must have bought them for less.
They either rebarreled them for the .308 family of cartridges or recontoured existing barrels and removed the military sights for the 6.5x55's they sold. They redid the blot handles and D&T'd for scopes, put them in Ramline synthetic stocks and out the door they went.
The 6.5's with the military barrels went for around $300-350 the rebarreled ones (.243, 7mm-08 &.308) went for a bit more.
I bought one of the 6.5's, I still have it as a backup/loaner rifle, it shoots into an 1-1.5" with that old stiff barrel. I have read that the ones that were rebarreled have experienced setback problem, that action wasn't designed for those pressures.
You rarely see customs built on the M96 Mauser, probably one of the best finished military actions ever and perfectly capable of doing what it was designed for. I have a couple of actions still around here, they can be rebarreled for a few classic chamberings such as the .300 Savage, .35 Remington, .257 Roberts and of course the 6.5x55. Brownells sells pre-threaded barrels for all these.
I also saw other, less known names, doing the same deal as Kimber, they sold at gunshow around here for less than $300 with a bad scope already mounted. The Kimber reworks were imported by Century Arms, and they contracted to Kimber to rework them and restock them. I have a good friend who worked at Kimber during this "fiasco" and he doesn't speak too highly of what went on during this contract. Lots of "that's close enough" mixing of bolts and parts. Even with the volume done, Kimber still lost their butt doing them for Century. A humorous note; my friend's driveway is about 1/4 mile long, and the fence along it is made up of old Mauser military stocks tossed out by Kimber! Yes, they did that many!
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Love to see a picture of that!
So some were sold under the Kimber name and others under the Century name? The Century's must be the ones I saw at gunshows for less money. I guess I got lucky with mine, though I did have to get Ramline to exchange the stock with a better fitting one a few years later.
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A number of Norwegian Krags were rebuilt in the 1960s in Austria for Globe in Ottowa. The .308WCF I owned for a while had a 22" Boehler steel barrel marked "Made in Austria" and "Globe Firearms Ltd. Ottowa Canada". Austrian proofmarks. Sporter stock with pistol grip, Monte Carlo cheekpiece, uncheckered, apppeared to be light colored walnut. Arsenal stamp and issue serial number ground off the receiver during rebuild. In my opinion the .308 is too hot for the Krag so I disposed of the rifle, warning the buyer in writing. I thought of setting the barrel back and rechambering to .300 Savage but decided not to bother.
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Michael, thanks for the information on the Sedgelys. By the way, I bought a great field used original at the York, PA show this weekend. Seems like a lot of them never got too far from Philly. Unertl Hawk in Redfield Junior mount, cut for 48 filled in with walnut, ramp and ring front sight missing. Oh, well. I'll fix it.
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Terry
Found my photo copy of the series in the "American Rifleman" - also have the magazines somewhere, but the copies were more readily available.
The series was actualy a five part series by T. B. Gresham and ran from July 1948 through November 1948. The "dowel/block" method (for lack of a better term) is discussed in the third part of the series and is attributed to a Henry Schoolfield - a gunsmith in Reidsville, N. C.
The series is 21 pages long. I could scan the copies for you if you are interested.
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Bill, Thank you very much for the offer but I couldn't ask you to scan the whole thing. If it is practical to just scan the material associated with the "dowel/block" method I would be happy pay you for it. You can send it to thop1atcoxdotnet. Thanks for the response Bill. Terry H.
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Here is a C.C. Johnson Krag in 22-3000 R-2. Stock has piece of wood added to raise comb and another for the pistol grip. Also interesting is the custom scope bases. Johnson had quite a reputation for building Lovells. From what I can gather reading the books from the era, he probably did as many as anyone. This rifle has a slight bulge in the barrel about 10" back from the muzzle, but still shoots into about 1.5 MOA which was about all that they expected at the time it was built.   John
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