doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Desperate times?

Steve is as easy to deal with as any dealer you will find. If there's ever a problem with a gun etc. Steve would be the first to make right.
I've bought many guns from Mr. Barnett over the years and he's been nothing short of a true professional.

I've stayed out of this because I generally don't post an opinion on something that's so prone to individual intrepretation where I don't have some first hand knowledge. However I think it's fair to ask the following:

How do you,or anyone reading this thread, reconcile the apparent wide variance in this sellers description of the gun that started this thread with the sellers reputation as a "True Professional"?
Jim

Sorry, italiansxs, anyone spending five grand or more for such a gun should know a redone, hard used gun when he sees a picture of one. No intelligent purchaser of a drilling in that price range should have even given that gun a second look. We are in a business similar to old cars. We should know what we are buying. Anyone who asks me for advice on buying a gun will get good advice. The buyer should have asked for advice. This experience probably cost him a hundred bucks in shipping. It could have cost him $5500 plus shipping and the time it takes to get rid of a bad gun. I think he got away easy and should be thankful. There are thousands of guns for sale out there that are not bargains. We are supposed to know which ones they are.

If I'm understanding this, he DID ask about flaws and was lied to. Or am I missing something?

No Greg, your not missing anything. You as a matter o' fact are getting what eightbore is obviously missing here, the "point".

Eightbore ASSumes that because Serban got lied to...it was Serbans fault the gun turned out to be a turd, regardless of how many "right" questions Serban asked, and how many times the seller lied in return. Pictures dont tell the whole story, you cant go off pictures alone, thats why we ask the "right" questions.....if a customer gets lied to....How is that customers fault???? I guess we have to ASSume that Eightbore got the "memmo" and is wayyyyy smarter than everyone else here.

When I related my experience with the ASE90 from Barnett, does anyone really think that the web pictures would have allowed me to see it was worn out, especially if no pictures showing problems areas were available for viewing?

If a buyer is splitting hairs about a 10% finish issue then I side with the dealer. But to avoid problems, especially serious problems with a gun's condition and mechanics, we all must rely on the ethics of the seller to give honest answers to questions asked. There should be no surprises when the gun is finally in hand...period.

To our good fortune, about a week after returning SB's broken down "new" ASE90, a private seller from Texas listed another as New In The Box. Well guess what...IT REALLY WAS NEW!!! and exactly as advertised. Plus it was $500 less than Barnett's junker

There are plenty of honest people out there, and there's just no excuse for a false sales pitch or fraudulent dealing, especially if a dealer has a reputation to protect. When a dealer takes short cuts and provides bad information (and service) he's doing more harm than good. And when a dealer (in this case SB) puts the same ASE90 back up for sale a second time with no mention of the problems he's been made aware of, it says volumes about his character. To paraphrase a wise old man... fool me once, shame on me...fool me twice...ain't gonna happen because there will be no second chance.

Those 7 you mention, probably never had to send a falsified gun back and wait a couple months ++ for their money....so they were happy campers......or they just like flaws and surprises....??

Oh! I guess I'm beginning to understand this gun dealing business. I really like this 2004 Ferrari 360 Modena Spyder and it looks like a smokin deal:

Look at this beauty:


Hmmm: Maybe I should ask for more information:

I'll say this, I have talked to Steve Barnett in the past year, and he was real cordial, and informative, and a pleasure to talk to...even invited me up there to see the place. I have been trying to find a good, reasonable excuse to make the 600 mile round trip, and possibly buy a gun from him. Although his prices are too high for me, at least I could have made a reasonable offer on a sxs that caught my eye. I think now, that I have found a good, reasonable excuse to stay home!

binko

Binko,
In spite of my comments regarding fair dealing practices, you must realize there is a big difference between being told what you want to hear over the phone...and actually having a gun in hand as a dealer describes its virtues. I expect that a face-to-face with Mr. Barnett would be very educational...plus handling the guns will give you immediate feedback as to "puffery" or "honesty" in their description and price. The Internet leaves you hoping that a dealer on the phone will "do the right thing"...which may be difficult for any dealer if it's not to their advantage. Face to face is best.