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This is the end of my rant Ed, I figure now I must be wrong, after all you have written a few books so I guess that makes you an expert in everything....NOT


Oh, by the way, "In summary, there is a quantum difference between PA being THE PHEASANT CAPITAL as originally stated and ONE OF THE TOP TEN ". How did you turn this around, I originally stated Pa. was the pheasant capital east of the Miss., and later in the top 10 in pheasant harvest, do you have periods of dyslexia? Go back and read the posts this time slowly.

Signing off on this post, it's yours, jib jab on.


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WOW

Whats it like to know everything and be able to write about it?

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Not being a native English speaker, would "long-winded" apply to
some posts on this thread?

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Nothing to do with the long long exchange, but I spouted some BS above regarding the pheasant farm's funding.
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Before declaring the closing of the Ithaca game farm here a loss, I'd like to know the cost/bird that we were paying.

According to the NRA email, it's entirely funded by ammo tax.
"The Reynolds game farm..has a budget of $750,000-per-year and is entirely funded by Pittman-Robertson monies..not money from the General Fund."

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Yeti,
This was kind of the point of my post. In Ohio cuts in Division of Wildlife budget will do nothing to help the General Fund, or lower fees and taxes. It's just smoke and mirrors.

However your question is still valid regardless who's paying. Could birds be bought cheaper then the Ithaca farm raised them? Could P/R monies be better spent buying birds?

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Originally Posted By: ohiosam
Yeti,
This was kind of the point of my post. In Ohio cuts in Division of Wildlife budget will do nothing to help the General Fund, or lower fees and taxes. It's just smoke and mirrors....


That is the same nonsense that was being used here in Illinois to stop the put-n-take program. Most legislators do not understand how the system works. When public hearings were held, it was sportsmen who made an effort to educate them. The result was that the funding was not touched. The individual legislators learned how important the sport was and that it was not a drain.

There was a history of stocking that took place in the late 19th century / early 20th century. These are not native birds. While they do wonderful in parts of the country, in others, as things change, they need help to maintain huntable numbers.

I see so many younger hunters who are drawn to hunting by pursuing them. For many it is more accessible than just about any other game animal.

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Originally Posted By: EDM

or (using your 1,000,000 pheasants with "6 zeros") that's almost 0.035 pheasants per each one-acre parcel, or one bird for every 28.6 acres. That's one powerful bunch of (wild?) pheasants harvested in PA.


Actually JDW is quite right on his 1,000,000 pheasant estimate with all six zero's...though admittedly he was being a bit modest! Actually Pennsylvania's pheasant take peaked over 1,300,000 million in the 70's the majority of which were all wild.

In fact the state game commision estimated that there were several million wild pheasants alone in PA during those years.

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I wasn't going to post any more on this, but thanks to JRH, I looked up some informaton that the "other" person could have done also, but in his knowing everything attitude figured he didn't need to do so.
The information I had was back then from one of the these three outdoor magazines, can't remember which one, Sports Afield, Outdoor Life or Field and Stream.

This says it all.
http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?a=458&q=167114

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