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Keith its all about Marine Corps pride.You bet the gun does recoil but if held correctly and you know whats about to happen there is no ill effects from doing it four days a week for sixteen months.I assure you physics were not defied just a small amont of recoil tolerated for what it was.Remember a mouse trap snapping on your finger don't realy hurt it just suprises you
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It's nice to read about real hunters using real hunting rifles. 
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Thanks for a bit of refreshing reality, Keith! 
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"Felt" recoil includes a lot of factors that cannot be measured. The late Bob Brister commented that one of the very best recoil reducers is a good pair of ear plugs. The less "boom" you hear, the less it seems to kick.
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holding a gun against something and firing it and holding it away from the same thing and letting it get a running go and slamming into it are 2 entirely different things. i've not tried firing an AR held against my chin but i wouldn't hesitate to do so. however, i also would not be so stupid as to hold it in FRONT of my chin and fire it. best analogy: try driving a nail by pushing on it.
i'll have to double check the next time i talk to my dad but if i remember right, he said in basic training the instructors showed them how they shouldn't be afraid of the recoil of a garand by putting the butt plate against their foreheads and firing it.
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The cumulative effect of recoil is indeed 'all in your head' (and cervical & upper thoracic spine, shoulders, and vestibular system) and it's called repetitive traumatic brain injury http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/tbi.htm http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/tbi/tbi.htmMuhammad Ali, lots of former NHL players, and soldiers are examples of the result. And those with previous traumatic brain injury are much more sensitive to additional trauma. Being 'afraid of the recoil' is not the problem experienced shooters are fighting.
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both those articles seem to specifically address blows to the head. shooting a firearm under normal circumstances doesn't produce a blow to the head. my shoulder and torso take that jolt. the only force transmitted to my head is whiplash from a badly fitting or badly held gun. neither of my 500's have ever given me the slightest case of shooters headache (i.e. whiplash). however a ruger #1 in 458 is particularly bad in that regard. the factory #1 stock is not very good for heavy recoiling calibers.
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Roger: I'm suggesting that we show a bit more understanding and grace to those who, for whatever reason (which is likely none of our business), are 'recoil sensitive.' The video of the Olympic Men's Skeet final is still up http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/player....nelcode=sportshWatch the movement of the shooter's head in response to the light loads. The accumulative effect is indeed 'blows to the head', and the results are measurable by neuropsychiatric testing, though certainly variable between individuals.
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One of the guys at my club loaned some of the machine guns that were used in the movies, Rambo and Predator and many others. He was talking about it a few months ago and said they had to rig the actors somehow as they were firing the machine guns because the guns would just spin them right around. At one time this guy had over 1000 machine guns and had his home installed with a burglar alarm that could gas a burglar entered his basement. I have heard several police comment on his house and they were almost afraid of near it on a burglar call.
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