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Posted By: Jtplumb Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/19/22 04:38 AM
https://www.shotgunworld.com/threads/old-krieghoff-shotgun.553724/
This guy has questions over there? Please talk him into more pics, looks like a rare drop lock o/u pre war!
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/19/22 01:38 PM
I am not sure all that chicken scratching adornment is pre-WWII. But I could be easily mistaken.

Serbus,

Raimey
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Posted By: Stanton Hillis Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/20/22 11:52 AM
I have no idea when that engraving was done but, it was done by a master. It does not have that bas relief, Germanic style to it, IMO.

Not all engraving can stand the scrutiny of magnification to the extent that gun can. Just superb.
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/20/22 12:09 PM
Jtplumb is correct that this O/U Krieghoff is more that just what meets the eye.

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A selective Safety to switch between Automatic & Non. Have you seen such Stan?? Also, can you ID the single trigger type??

The adornment just maybe >>Jugendstil<< or Art Nouveau???

Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/20/22 12:23 PM
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It is the switch / toggle on the triggerguard bow that has me puzzled. I am not much of a Single Trigger follower, so I really have no idea of its function.


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Any thoughts on the selective single trigger?(Joseph Kautzky or an early Miller??) There's a thread around here somewhere that several are ID'd and discussed.


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Also, there's another Krieghoff / Remington(Maybe REMO) thread where a similar O/U is compared.


Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Jtplumb Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/20/22 02:26 PM
This is a release for trigger group or drop lock. I have seen Krieghoff drillings with removable trigger group but was different design. It would be exciting to see a tru drop lock here, I know kettner sold a sxs drop lock.
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Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/20/22 02:33 PM
That is exactly what it is just like on the Krieghoff Primus Drieling. Sometimes one has to hold their teeth just right to slip it back into battery.
Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Jtplumb Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/20/22 02:41 PM
With the top latch design that looked like a Westley Richards variant I was hoping for the mystical German drop lock?
Posted By: Jtplumb Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/20/22 02:44 PM
Mariner Browning had a single trigger that looked like this one from the outside, I mean exactly like this. I wonder where he might have found that design after seeing this one.
Posted By: Jtplumb Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/20/22 03:15 PM
I’m sure it’s a trigger plate blitz action with it being o/u it would have to be something nobody has seen before.
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/20/22 03:15 PM
I do wonder if the Single Selective trigger was sourced from the U.S. of A.??

Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: eightbore Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/20/22 06:27 PM
I believe the trigger is original equipment. The trigger guard is sized for a single trigger, not double triggers. Now, back to the discussion about the engraving.
Posted By: Jtplumb Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/20/22 06:35 PM
The reason for safety and trigger questions were the oddness of having a selector on the trigger plate and on the safety. See pics. What the heck is going on with the selector on the safety( if that’s what it is)?
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/20/22 07:14 PM
It is a selector for automatic & non automatic safety. The owner confirmed this??

Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Jtplumb Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/20/22 07:50 PM
Thanks. Sorry I missed that, I have never seen one with that option. Special gun.
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/21/22 12:11 AM
I haven't either & had not idea it existed. Quite a little treat.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Jtplumb Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/21/22 01:41 AM
This isn’t a spring to push in is it?
[img]https://i.imgur.com/
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/21/22 02:12 AM
I don't think so as it looks to be the triggerguard bow??


Serbus,

Raimey

rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/23/22 09:22 PM
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And of all things it is a Franz Jäger Design....


https://www.germanhuntingguns.com/about-the-makers/gun-makers-catalogs/franz-jager-single-trigger/




Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 12/23/22 09:44 PM
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Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Jtplumb Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 04/23/23 06:40 PM
Sad but it happens
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/980552825
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 04/23/23 09:54 PM
I thought you already were the new custodian of this one?


Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 04/23/23 10:02 PM
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The rib on the additional tubeset looks to resemble a rollercoaster?

This gun was made more than likely for export to the U.S. of A.


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Wolfgang will have to drum up the name for this adornment / engraving?


Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 04/23/23 10:06 PM
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Was the adornment added before the tubeset was fitted to the action?

Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 04/23/23 10:23 PM
https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=623933&page=1

Just a cross-reference.


Serbus,

Raimey
rse
Posted By: Jtplumb Re: Very special prewar Krieghoff ? - 04/23/23 10:29 PM
Only in my dreams!
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