Most interesting Heinrich Scherping hammer DR in what was published as 9,3X74R that disappeared quickly.





Interesting butt of stock adornment


Toplever & rear okular






Lots of adornment on frame



Flip side stock adornment


Lovely depiction of ole Wild Boar



Roe Deer a bit lacking/??


Most unusual forend latch as Scherping almost exclusively used the Viennese version(Rigby / Harvey).
>>The grip catch was patented by Charles Harvey, an employee with Wilkinson & Son of 27 Pall Mall, London in patent no.1793 of 7 July 1866<<

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Lots of surface area



Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Interesting Barrel maker's touchmark.


Considering the cartridge & load data it should date to 1905-1910

Even though someone says it is 9,3X74R I always return to Ford's predicament where he was shooting a 9,3X74r thru a 9,3X72 Sauer....

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Volunteer Proof of 3,7 grammes of G.B.P. pushing a Steel jacketed projectile, where G.B.P. denotes the use of a military flake powder called Gewehr Blättchen Pulver. I know that 2.67 G.B.P. produced a pressure of 58,800 psi, but I am unsure of the pressure for 3,7 grammes. I would assume it was non-linear.
The Volunteer proof was added to the law/rules on July 23rd, 1893 but one really doesn't see widespread use until after circa 1900.



Ampersand Barrel Maker's Mark???

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

In my limited experience, when the bore diameter is marked as 108/49, in gauge measurement, the groove diameter often is .362-.364", which would work with 9.3x74R while a little tight. The 9,3x72R Sauer& Sohn vs. 9.3x74R deal was in an actual Sauer & Sohn BF. The Sauer chambering is rare enough in Sauer guns and would be very rare in a non-Sauer rifle. It seems that the factory crimp with some makes of 9.3x74R ammo reduces the neck diameter enough that a cartridge may chamber but not expand enough to release the bullet. If there is a question, the bullet in a fired case neck test (like 8x57IR-IRS test) may provide a quick answer. Other indications could be a Sauer chambered rifle may not stabilize bullets longer than 296 gr. RN which may strike the targets sideways (the Sauer cartridge used a 185-gr bullet with a slower twist barrel), A blown primer, or failure to chamber a non-crimped cartridge. A chamber cast would clear any doubt. The butt stock adornment seems to be an attempt to cover up a stock extension (black walnut?).
Mike

I thought so too on the stock, but upon close inspection the grain seems to continue??

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

I agree it is a good match, but not perfect. A China marker can work wonders in talented hands (I'm not saying it's the case here).
Mike

Awesome platform with some of the best animal engraving I have seen. Far better engraving than most.

I agree less the Roe Deer could be a skosh better. I do wonder which mechanic the Eckenbrecht Boys engaged.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Too, suspicions are that the one person who could ID the hand of the engraving is now the new Custodian.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Raimey, Raimey, Raimey, You're are just trying to raise my blood pressure! 1st H Scherping clamshell I have seen in my 35 years of looking at His wares! Fantastic Gun which ever chambering, chopper lump barrels to boot! Agree on the stock extension, Forend latch not that unusual although most were Rigby style. Touch mark does not look familiar but will be doing a cleaning session soon & will be watching for it as I go through them. Nice Find, who ended up with this one?

Good Eye Hart on those Choppers..... I failed to mention it. Stout Platform as Jtplumb notes and a Best Gun @ the very least. Ah, it seems it went to an Artisan-Collector in Suhl.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Hart, I well know you are an Addict of Scherping wares and that you have sought um therapy / counsel, but this was a Must See.....


Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Better orientation of Ampersand stamps

Too, there had to be just a handful, or actually a couple of Barrel Smiths that specialized in Chopperlump Tubesets.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

I've been reading this thread as it goes along, and I have to comment on the wood. Number one, I hope it isn't original, because I think my opinion of the builder would drop if he thought that the carved band added anything to the gun. However, based on my almost 50 years of trying to butcher good walnut, I think it is obvious just due to grain and color on the left side that this is two totally different pieces of wood. The right side however is where it is obvious, even though the match is much better. The wood is not well sealed and filled, and notice the surface of the wood forward of and behind the carved line. The forward wood has pores running along the suface in a front to back direction and present as tiny half-grooves. The pores behind the carving are oriented perpindicular to the surface. The entire surface structure is totally different from one side of the division to the other. I have never in all my woodfinishing seen that occur on walnut. The only way it is possible is that the wood grain is not oriented in the same direction. It is a good job of hiding the joint but it has to be an extension.

AGS, I have probably seen over 100 Scherping guns, no 2 exactly alike & have never seen a carved stock such as this one. That carving was done at a later date. m-4

Yep, I own one and given the quality I can't imagine them doing something like this.