When tossing Brenneke formed lead down range out of Combos & Drillings is it best to see how slugs group thru a pattern effort & then just allow for that when hunting @ distance? I am testing both 12 & 20 bore platforms with Brenneke's KO(3/4 oz-20 Bore), Brenneke's Heavy Field Short Magnum & Brenneke's Classic Magnum.


Serbus,

Raimey
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The question probably has been answered many times?


Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Raimey,

you should shoot with open sights at 50m. Allow the barrel to cool properly after each shot. This way you make 5 shots. The scattering circle should remain under 10 cm. Brennecke guarantees this in the so-called "Langenhagener Norm". 4-5cm are good values!

The Langenhagen standard states that for appropriate hunting, the scattering circle with the "BRENNEKE" must not exceed 10 centimeters with five shots at 50 meters - even with combined barrels (coasters). With Drillings, the total scattering circle of all three barrels should not exceed 15 centimeters.

Try many different brands until you get the best results.

Cheers,
Wolfgang

Many thanks for the insight & IF, IF I can get enough cartridges, I will test the Brenneke guarantee. So a 9cm diameter/grouping for the >>Langenhagener Norm<< is acceptable.


Serbus,

Raimey
rse

...even more precise is test-shooting with a red dot sight...!

Yes, it is, but at 50 m....!?

that's what Brenneke says:

To take advantage of the precision of a shotgun slug, you also need appropriate sights.

Up to 30 meters, a shot via rail and bead sight is still justifiable.
Up to 50 meters, a driven hunt sight with a red dot should be the best choice.
At more than 50 meters, a telescopic sight is required for clean, fair game hits.

Cheers,
Wolfgang

I really like open sights. There's not a whole lot of difference between 35 metres and 50 metres.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

In the U.S. of A. we refer to this as >>Iron Sights<<

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Of course, the accuracy over open sights differs from shooter to shooter

thanks, that was translation by AI...

Waihei,
Wolfgang

Raimey, You should sight the gun in with the rifle first, then check POI with Brennekes at what ever distance you choose. You may decide to use a different load for general hunting in the rifle barrel so the sighting with it gives a useable POI for the slug. For example, with my Heym's rifle barrel sighted in with 7x57R, 173 gr HMK I can use Brennekes with the same sighting, and with appropriate "hold over" can keep them "in my hat" at 100 meters, which is my self imposed extreme range for Brennekes in that gun. Previous testing showed rifle bullets lighter than 160 gr shoot too wide to allow use of Brennekes with the same sighting as the rifle. Once you are satisfied both barrels shoot together at your chosen range, then you can check group size as suggested by Wolfgang.
Mike

Ford:

We have the rifle part of it accomplished quite well w/ Norma ammo and reloads. Trying to dial in some Brenneke lead.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

But Ford, it is a bit of a task to get the Deer to stand @ exactly 35 metres for us.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Raimey,
That is why it is important to know the Brenneke's POI at different ranges with the rifle sighted for the load you normally hunt with. Don't count on a standing shot, you can sit four hours to end the hunt with 4 seconds of pandemonium.
Mike

Thanks Ford. I was led to think that you tied them out to 35 metres, broadside?


Serbus,

Raimey
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