I just found this rifle on Gunbroker. It may be of interest to you folks who shoot from the right shoulder.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/876952680
What am I missing? Where's the takedown happen?
I have several Newtons, mostly Model 1916, but with one Model 1922, made in Germany by J.P. Sauer on an Oberndorf Mauser action, with a unique Newton set trigger. All of the 1916's are "take down".
I have never owned a Model 1924, I guess because I couldn't stomach the dog leg bolt handle.
Since the 1924's share the same type of bottom metal as the 1916's, I assume that the "take down" feature consists of using the hinged floor plate as a handle to release the front of the action. The rear of the action is secured with a hook type arrangement, similar to that of an M1 carbine, so that the barreled action separates from the stock without the use of a tool. It is an ingenious system and superior to those which require the barrel to be separated from the action, IMHO.
Don't know a Newron Rifle from a fig newton cookie- but what is the front trigger facing bass-ackwards for--?? Goofy indeed. RWTF
TD is the same on the 1924 model as the 1916.
The Model 1924's are marked 'Buffalo Newton Rifle Co.'
But they were never made in Buffalo NY as were the original US production.
These Mod 1924 were a redesigned rifle made in New Haven CT well after the orig Newton Company went under in 1918 and then tried to resurface couple of more times shortly thereafter.
A few Newtons were orig made on imported Mausers before the first USA built rifles were ever made. Then again some more Mauser 'Newtons' were imported after WW1 (the Model 1922 as xausa has).
The Model 1924 is considered the least desirerable of the Newtons as far as quality of fit, finish, design, But I think they only put about 1K of them together.
That bolt handle design really turns people away!
..and case in point..Production Rarity doesn't always mean valuable!
The Orig 1916 USA built Newton has standard forward facing DST'grs.
But inside they are powered by very sturdy torsion coil springs.
The TD screw being the front action screw & attached to the floor plate makes for easy take down.
The recoil lug on the action where the screw engages has a simple screw adjustment on the side of the threaded boss to allow for take up adj. The TD can be kept just as tight and snug as you like with the simple arrangement.
Something you might have expected to see on a Lefever design
The bbl & frame on the original 1916 Model are threaded the same as the US 1903 Springfield rifle. Same coned breech and extractor cut.
It was not uncommon to have a 1916 Newton rebbl'd w/a surplus '03 bbl if the .256Newton bbl or other 'odd caliber Newton' was shot out.
Newton also offered the rifle in 30-06 from the factory.
Some orig Newtons have 2 extractor cuts in the breech face of the bbl. Should only be one at 3 oclock ('03 Springfield breech).
Either the bbl was fit up and clocked past the machined cut at assembly and they had to go another 1/2 turn and then cut the second extractor cut,,,
Or perhaps proofing left the rifle with excessive headspace and turning the bbl in another 1/2 turn and rechambering again to spec headspace to save the bbl was a thing they did.
The bbl address, cal marking ect have been on the top position proper on the couple I have seen like this. But one shows a plugged hole/screw hole on the now bottom side where a rear sight would have been. That rifle now sports a bolt peep. Hard to detect any other scrubbed markings from the now bottom of the bbl.
Both were 256Newton rifles.
Just what I've observed,,probably it means nothing but thought it interesting. They didn't make all that many rifles in the 1916 Model somewhere betw 3 and 4K most have said.
I wasn't there...
I have a Model 1924 in .30-06, with ratchet rifling. I really like the DST, but that is pretty close to the end of the story. I don't think I'd shoot mine with even a standard hunting load, but it seems to shoot OK at .30-30 velocities. Magazine is useless. With cartridges in the magazine, the first shot dumps the rest on your shoes. Bolt handle is infuriating. Why not just use a 1917 Enfield?
The first models of rifles that Newton put out were in 1914 when he tried to import various models of Mauser rifles and either rechamber them in 256 Newton or one model of Haenel rifle which he rebarreled in 256 Newton using barrels made for him by Marlin.He put in 3 orders of 24 rifles each but only one order was received and the rest canceled due to WWI. The model 1916 was first made under Newton's supervision for 16 months and about 2800 rifles were put out initially. A Receiver took over and offerd about 1250 rifles followed by Newton Arms Corp with 950 rifles and finally Kirtland Hardware with about 250 rifles finally sold off. This adds up to more than 4000 because some rifles were passed from one entity to another if not sold. The highest serial is in the low 4000 range. About 100 rifles were imported in 1922. Mauser actions and put together by Sauer. These were the FINEST rifles ever to carry the Newton name. About 1000 model 1924s were produced.
A couple more odd variations are the Newton Springfield. Newton offered the Marlin made barrels to be installed on Springfield actions and with a Newton styled stock. These were offered in 1914. Total made is unknown. The major investor in the 1924, Meeker, left the factory with parts for 200 rifles and made the Meeker rifle. Most in the 500 to.600 serial range. Again total made is unknown. He marked the same number as to caliber as Newton but put Meeker on the barrel rather than Newton.
40NT,
Tell us more about the Haenel 256 Newton. Did he rebarrel multiple Haenel rifles of one model( Mod 09?); or did he only rebarrel one Haenel rifle? A Haenel Mod 09 would make up into a nice .256 Newton.
Mike
The 1924 Newton had double set triggers and the front trigger was pushed forward to set the firing trigger.
It was one of the model German rifles Newton imported to introduce his 256 Newton caliber. Made by C.G. Haenel also known as the Mannlicher-Haenel New Model and the official designation was the German Infrantry Model 1888. It was listed in the early Newton catalogs as the Model D. The 1914 Newton rifle group is confusing since Newton was trying several ideas to introduce his 256 caliber. There were 3 Grades of rifles and 4 Models. This one with a Marlin made barrel and marked 256. Most of the others, mostly Mausers were rechambered but not all or maybe none marked 256 Newton on the barrel. You might have one in your closet and not know it.
The Mannlicher-Haenel New Model is a different rifle and action from the GEW '88.
I don't know anything about Newton's imports from Germany. But if he did import the Haenel New Model Mannlicher, it was a very nice choice.
A blend of Mauser 98 and Mannlicher, the rifles are not often seen. Even then they are often confused with the '88 as they have the same split rear receiver bridge.
I have 2 of the Haenel N/Mod Mannlichers. Neither a Newton!
One in 9mm Mauser. The other orig 9.3x57 I believe till someone ran a 35Whelen reamer into it for more power! Ouch!
There are 2 different Commercial Models with slight variation betw them. The bolt handles and the magazine floorplate release is the biggest give-away betw them. I don't recall what the Model designations were.
There were a couple of Military contracts filled using the New/Model/Mannlicher. One was for Paraguay I believe. Another for one of the other smaller countries in that region, can't remember the name now.
Occasionally one of the Military rifles surfaces.
Gotta get my 256 Newton rifle fixed up. One of these days..