Gentlemen:

I am in need of some jacketed bullets for a .38-40. Remington and Winchester both used to offer 180 grain bullets specifically for the .38-40, but it seems they have been discontinued. If any of you good folk have some hanging around collecting dust I would gladly pay you Tuesday...

Respectfully,

Glenn

I have some Hamburger, will that do? I will contact a source here close to me. He is a single shot person. He has scrounged for years many things....

Good to see you back, Glenn!

Sorry, no .38-40 stuff in my piles.

Glenn, I have a couple boxes of 50's vintage Winchester factory ammo if that would be of any help.

If I recall correctly, the 38-40 cartridge uses bullets with
the same diameter as the 10mm or 40 S&W, hope this helps.
Ruger once made a Blackhawk with interchangeable cylinders
for 38-40 and 10mm.

Gentlemen:

Thanks to you all for the replies. Terry, thanks for the welcome. I am doing quite a bit better and am beginning to have something of a life.

The point of this exercise is the possibility of deer hunting in Indiana, where they only allow shotguns or pistol caliber rifles. I happen to have a Marlin 94 in .38-40 which fits the rules. The bore is pretty rough and I expect there would be issues with cast bullets, which is why I was looking for jacketed bullets. I have had the offer of the loan of a mold, so I might try cast bullets anyway.

.40 caliber bullets do work in the rifle just fine, but I wonder if the pistol bullets offered would hold up when meeting a deer at 1500 fps. Do any of you have any experience with this?

Thanks to all,

Glenn

I have exactly what you are looking for. I'll try and find the correct drawer early this week…keeping your tag line in mind. I've only shot a few in an old Colt I don't own any longer.
Win. factory jacketed.

Steven:

Thanks very much. Let me know when you find them and we will work something out.

Glenn

Glenn,
I can strongly recommend 180 great FN cast bullets -RCBS-

I use them in my 94 Marlin very well. I can bring a hundred or more to Lodi for you. I use ALOX liquid lube and some 2400 powder with them for excellent results.

Email me or call 515.450.2904

Brent in Raton.
PS. Al Sledge says hello.

Glen, I called my friend who said he sold everything when he sold his rifle in that caliber. Sorry. Good to see your post!

Glenn:

Andy Hill, owner of Hawk Precision Bullets makes just what you want. Soft Copper Jacket Bullets with soft lead cores which are perfect for your rough bore. Read the numerous testimonials on the link supplied. They've been making bullets since 1987 at the same location for almost every application.

I've used them for 20 years or so with great satisfaction in the old 1870-1900 built guns of all calibers for hunting and target shooting. Great bullets of high quality.

Andy makes the 38-40 - .401 bullet in 180 grain and 200 grain. Andy Hill & Hawk Precision Bullets are a class act.


http://hawkbullets.com/maintest.htm

http://hawkbullets.com/Pricelist.htm


Best,

Dennis:

Thanks for looking into this for me. Much obliged. It seems that Mr. Hughes has what I am looking for.

Brent:

Thanks very much. I would be interested in trying the RCBS boolit. I actually prefer lead bullets but didn't want to invest the better part of a hundred dollar bill on a mold only to find the bore too rough for a lead boolit.

Now all I hafta do is find some 2400...

Best to all,

Glenn

Doug:

Thanks for the link to Hawk. Looks like they are the answer to a number of questions.

Much obliged!

Glenn

Sorry for the miscommunication Glenn. Even though you said you wanted bullets, I thought you wanted ammo...
You're not the only one I've had trouble communicating with of late.

Anyone want Win. factory 38-40 ammo, 180 JFP?

You're welcome Glenn.........

BTW IMR 4227 will give you the same performance with the 180 grain jacketed 38-40 as the 2400......per my late 1950's and 1960's loading manuals 20.0 grains of IMR 4227 will give you 1428 FPS and 18.0 grains of 2400 will give you 1420 FPS. Both are recommended loads and not max loadings for the 38-40 180 grain bullet. IMR 4227 is readily available at most suppliers. I use IMR 4227 in several loadings such as the 32-20 with great results.

Best Regards,

Glenn,

You'll be well armed, sir. Below deer shot through heart with pictured .38 WCF 1873 model, complete penetration, deer dumped about 20 yards from where shot.

I love the .38-40.

Best, Dan

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Steve:

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Thanks for trying.

Doug:

It just so happens that I have some 4227. I checked in Waters' "Pet Loads" and his recommendations are pretty much what you suggest. Brent is going to bring some cast boolits for me to try, and if the bore does indeed prove to rough I will try the Hawk bullets. I would prefer to shoot the cast boolits if possible.

Dan:

You make it look easy. <g> Thanks for the encouragement, as I do have some reservations about the .38-40 for deer. I guess it will be ok if I limit my shots to under 300 yards...

Best to all,

Glenn

Hi Glenn:

I cast for just about all of my rifles and have found that "pure lino-type" works extremely well with gas checks as the hard lead does not exit with fins or lead the bore as do the softer lead alloys. The downside with any cast bullet used in hunting is the expansion factor, unless using pure lead as in muzzle loading mini-balls etc. Cast hard hollow points fix the expansion problem and work well for me.

I've shot quite a few Deer, Elk, coyotes etc. with my cast bullets in 45-70, 38-55, 32-40, 32-20, .30 U.S., .348, .32 SPL, 30/30 etc. and hollow point cast gas check bullets are a plus for sure. With pure lino-type gas checks you can drive the cast bullet at near jacket speeds with zero leading, which makes one super hard hitting hollow point cast bullet. The critters seem to go down quite well.

Good Luck with whatever alloy/cast or jacketed bullet you end up with, as usual shot placement is more important than all the hype anyway.....

Best Regards,


.456 HP - 330 grain, electronic scale weight with lino as cast 324 grains, Lyman mould #456122 original Gould's Express HP.

Glenn,

Yes, I forgot to brag about my marksmanship. That deer was taken standing at a whopping....wait for it....25 yards! It was touch and go for a minute....Ha!

Dan