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Posted By: old colonel Loosen old tight screws - 01/20/20 11:02 PM
Helping someone remove the stock on an old side by side.

I have a variety of turn screws that fit the slots perfectly, but can’t seem to turn the screw under the lever at all and I don’t want to tear it up

Any tricks?
Posted By: SKB Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/20/20 11:29 PM
Depends on the gun but that is often a through hole in the trigger plate. If so you can add some penetrating oil from the bottom. If not, try a tight fitting turn screw in a drill press.
Posted By: mc Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/21/20 04:19 AM
I have used a large tap handle and made a bit to fit the slot in the pin this works if you don't have drill press.if you a long bit you could use it in a drill press
Posted By: keith Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/21/20 05:42 AM
Originally Posted By: old colonel
Helping someone remove the stock on an old side by side.

I have a variety of turn screws that fit the slots perfectly, but can’t seem to turn the screw under the lever at all and I don’t want to tear it up

Any tricks?


Lefty-loosey... Righty-tighty...

Tough to remember those complicated instructions for screw removal... when you're a brain damaged hatchery trout! My advice... Don't even try this task. A head of cabbage would have better odds of success, i.e., roughly equal to your pal nca225.

Of course, you could always send it to the free advertising gunsmith SKB, and he could then farm the work out to someone else. Or you could send it to Steven Dodd Hughes, another DoubleGun Shop.com free advertiser, since you apparently like his style. Then there's Shortshells. You both have a lot in common.

Posted By: old colonel Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/21/20 10:10 AM
Are you trolling Keith?
Posted By: HomelessjOe Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/21/20 01:05 PM
Trolling or advising....
Posted By: Woodreaux Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/21/20 01:52 PM
Depending on where the screw is, you might try an impact driver with the bit modified to fit the slot. Garrett Wade sells a small one I think. I bought one from an auto parts store and filed a bit to fit the holes in the striker disc.

The advantage is the it only turns when you hit it with a hammer, so the force is into the slot or holes. I had tried everything mentioned here, as well as putting a bit into a brace. Nothing budged it until the driver.

I'd be a little timid about using it on exposed screws, but it's actually probably safer than the slot than and other method that would be more likely to slip.

Here are the garret Wade drivers: https://www.garrettwade.com/pro-screw-loosening-impact-driver-set-gp.html

(Be sure to tell Garret Wade to send $10 to Dave if you buy them)
Posted By: Daryl Hallquist Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/21/20 02:06 PM
Be sure your screwdriver blade is not too wide. Some countersinks for screws have tapered sidewalls, so even though the blade of the screwdriver fits nicely into the visible slot, the edge of the blade may be catching the sidewall below the surface of the screw head. This can make removal very difficult, especially if lots of downward pressure is applied to the screwdriver.
Posted By: mc Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/22/20 01:38 AM
Impact driver is a good way to break the head of the pin, drill press puts a solid down force on the slot in the pin the large tap handle give you controlled torque to get really tough pins out. I had a hinge pin on a 1892 wc scott Monte carlo that wouldn't budge I used the tap handle and a bit I made to remove it if it had cracked I would have had to make a very complicated pin.
Posted By: keith Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/22/20 07:37 AM
Originally Posted By: old colonel
Are you trolling Keith?


No, not in the least. I have offered the only appropriate advice you have received thus far. A person like you has no business attempting something so complicated as removing a screw without doing damage. I can tell that you have no mechanical aptitude.

And you should never be permitted to touch or use sharp tools.
Posted By: HomelessjOe Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/22/20 01:25 PM
I'm pretty talented with wood...I was told by my late gunsmith friend I should get rid of all my screw drivers.

I still have them...just about every time I pick one up I'm reminded of what he said.
Posted By: BrentD, Prof Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/22/20 02:25 PM
Originally Posted By: old colonel
Helping someone remove the stock on an old side by side.

I have a variety of turn screws that fit the slots perfectly, but can’t seem to turn the screw under the lever at all and I don’t want to tear it up

Any tricks?


You might try tapping on the screwdriver with a light mallet - not beating on it but tapping it enough to break it loose from what ever might be sticking to it.
Posted By: HomelessjOe Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/22/20 03:08 PM
BrentD you should try tapping your head with a mallet and see if that knocks the socialism out of your heAd.
Posted By: Ted Schefelbein Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/22/20 05:42 PM
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
I'm pretty talented with wood...I was told by my late gunsmith friend I should get rid of all my screw drivers.

I still have them...just about every time I pick one up I'm reminded of what he said.


Did he die when the cheesy vise you gave him broke, again, and it landed on his toe?

Best,
Ted
Posted By: mc Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/22/20 09:09 PM
Joe did he recognize you don't know how they worked didn't want you to hurt yourself ti
Posted By: keith Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/23/20 06:31 AM
Originally Posted By: mc
Joe did he recognize you don't know how they worked didn't want you to hurt yourself ti


WTF does this mean???
Posted By: HomelessjOe Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/23/20 03:19 PM
Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
I'm pretty talented with wood...I was told by my late gunsmith friend I should get rid of all my screw drivers.

I still have them...just about every time I pick one up I'm reminded of what he said.


Did he die when the cheesy vise you gave him broke, again, and it landed on his toe?

Best,
Ted


No Special Ed Ted..The broken Versa Vise he repaired never broke he used it till his death....

Ed Mason was a master gunsmith he could fix most any part of a gun beyond detection.

Ed's remark came after seeing a screw I had buggered.

I guess you never buggered a screw on a gun ?
Posted By: Ted Schefelbein Re: Loosen old tight screws - 01/23/20 05:41 PM
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
I'm pretty talented with wood...I was told by my late gunsmith friend I should get rid of all my screw drivers.

I still have them...just about every time I pick one up I'm reminded of what he said.


Did he die when the cheesy vise you gave him broke, again, and it landed on his toe?

Best,
Ted


No Special Ed Ted..The broken Versa Vise he repaired never broke he used it till his death....

Ed Mason was a master gunsmith he could fix most any part of a gun beyond detection.

Ed's remark came after seeing a screw I had buggered.

I guess you never buggered a screw on a gun ?


Pretty much, no. I was first contact if someone had a broken Darne in this country, and the jobs I couldn't handle went to Kirk Merrington.
Lots of guys right here, have my work in their gun safe.
I’d bet money the late gunsmith saw the screwdrivers with the pink handles you got from Lowe’s and figured he better save you from yourself.
Bet he was a nice guy. What did he do to deserve you?

Best,
Ted
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