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Posted By: battle Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 03:22 PM
What the hell is going on with this gun? How'd they get the blue to look like that?

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Posted By: BrentD, Prof Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 03:25 PM
They sent it to ed. frown
Posted By: Jimmy W Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 03:28 PM
If you are talking about the different shades of the bluing, I'm thinking it is just the lighting. I can't really tell by the pictures. I have seen people try to case color a Model 21. Buy it and find out!!
Posted By: battle Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 03:37 PM
Originally Posted by Jimmy W
If you are talking about the different shades of the bluing, I'm thinking it is just the lighting. I can't really tell by the pictures. I have seen people try to case color a Model 21. Buy it and find out!!


Uh NO!
Posted By: Jimmy W Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by battle
Originally Posted by Jimmy W
If you are talking about the different shades of the bluing, I'm thinking it is just the lighting. I can't really tell by the pictures. I have seen people try to case color a Model 21. Buy it and find out!!


Uh NO!
That would be an EXCELLENT gun for you, battle!! Brent D. Prof even says so. Jump on it!! smile
Posted By: Grouse Guy Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 03:53 PM
I'm not sure why a M21 12ga with opened chokes, reblue and a cut stock is already being bid over $3K!
Posted By: Jimmy W Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 04:18 PM
Originally Posted by Grouse Guy
I'm not sure why a M21 12ga with opened chokes, reblue and a cut stock is already being bid over $3K!
Because someone will buy it, fix it up and put an $8000.00 price tag on it. smile
Posted By: Bill Davis Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 05:11 PM
This gun was hot blued and it turns the Winchester proof steel a purplish hue. It’s a mess!
Posted By: Bob Cash Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 05:14 PM
Barrels read Mod/IC. Advertised as IC/Cyl
Whomever F's with Model 21 barrels and chokes (with so few made) should be horsewhipped.
Posted By: Jimmy W Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 05:48 PM
Originally Posted by Bill Davis
This gun was hot blued and it turns the Winchester proof steel a purplish hue. It’s a mess!
That means the barrels could be damaged, too!!
Posted By: Jimmy W Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by Bob Cash
Barrels read Mod/IC. Advertised as IC/Cyl
Whomever F's with Model 21 barrels and chokes (with so few made) should be horsewhipped.
I always felt the same way about people who put Brilley chokes in one. frown
Posted By: battle Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 07:46 PM
Originally Posted by Jimmy W
Originally Posted by battle
Originally Posted by Jimmy W
If you are talking about the different shades of the bluing, I'm thinking it is just the lighting. I can't really tell by the pictures. I have seen people try to case color a Model 21. Buy it and find out!!


Uh NO!
That would be an EXCELLENT gun for you, battle!! Brent D. Prof even says so. Jump on it!! smile

To tarted up for me Jimmy.
Posted By: BrentD, Prof Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 07:48 PM
Originally Posted by Jimmy W
Originally Posted by battle
Originally Posted by Jimmy W
If you are talking about the different shades of the bluing, I'm thinking it is just the lighting. I can't really tell by the pictures. I have seen people try to case color a Model 21. Buy it and find out!!


Uh NO!
That would be an EXCELLENT gun for you, battle!! Brent D. Prof even says so. Jump on it!! smile

I said what? Show me.
Posted By: Jimmy W Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 10:03 PM
Originally Posted by BrentD, Prof
Originally Posted by Jimmy W
Originally Posted by battle
Originally Posted by Jimmy W
If you are talking about the different shades of the bluing, I'm thinking it is just the lighting. I can't really tell by the pictures. I have seen people try to case color a Model 21. Buy it and find out!!


Uh NO!
That would be an EXCELLENT gun for you, battle!! Brent D. Prof even says so. Jump on it!! smile

I said what? Show me.
Right there. Page seven. You said those barrels sure did match his baby blue eyes. smile
Posted By: battle Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 10:13 PM
Not a match Jimmy. I have dark green eyes, or hazel if your prefer that...
Posted By: Fudd Re: Winchester 21 - 11/29/23 11:32 PM
Originally Posted by Bob Cash
Barrels read Mod/IC. Advertised as IC/Cyl
Whomever F's with Model 21 barrels and chokes (with so few made) should be horsewhipped.

I once bought one from a Canadian dealer. Very low serial number, early production. Price wasn't nuts, so I rolled the dice. Because of the discrepancy between the listed and stamped choke descriptions (not described in the listing), and because the forend was sloppy-loose, also not described in the listing, I sent it right back. Too much trouble for me to un-fudge; it's not like I live next door to a competent double shotgun 'smith. Got a full refund minus return postage. I've learned to ask for deeply-intrusive pictures and descriptions of condition and conditions of sale since, from private sellers and dealers alike.

But. I can at least say I owned an early Winchester Model 21 for a week. I like them, as a species.
Posted By: Jimmy W Re: Winchester 21 - 11/30/23 12:35 AM
About 15 years ago I was at the National Gun Day gun show in Louisville. I had started collecting Model 21s and I was looking for another one to buy. I got to the table belonging to Charles Hancock from Tennessee and there was a beat up Model 21 laying on his table with a $1900.00 price tag. The bluing was worn a little bit. The center bead was broken off. It had the old style buttstock that they put on the first ones and it had a beavertail forearm that looked homemade, but it still was pretty nice. It was a 12 gauge, with double triggers and extractors. I kept looking at it for some time and finally Charles came over and said, "Okay! Okay! I'll tell you what. I'll let you have that gun for $1600.00 dollars." So I bought it. When I got home I noticed the 28" barrels had been honed out to I/C and I/C and someone had taken a center punch and punched over the words Full and Full on the barrels. I took it to my gunsmith and had him replace the center bead with a gold one. And I put a leather covered (KICKEEZ) pad on it. My first one I ever did, actually. Over the years that gun has been an excellent beater. And a great skeet gun. It has worked flawlessly. I have really enjoyed having it.
Posted By: eightbore Re: Winchester 21 - 11/30/23 06:09 PM
Best deals I have gotten in recent years is a non ejector 20 for $650 and a non ejector 12 for $1100. If I go back into the mid sixties, there was a mint pair, 12 and 20 ejector guns in an oak and leather Purdey trunk case for an even one thousand dollars. Around the same time, I bought a non ejector 28" 12 for $425.
Posted By: Bob Cash Re: Winchester 21 - 12/01/23 08:06 PM
When considering how little time we have on this earth, aren't they all best deals?
My most recent "Best Deal",

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Posted By: skeettx Re: Winchester 21 - 12/01/23 10:01 PM
pretty smile
Posted By: Buzz Re: Winchester 21 - 12/01/23 11:52 PM
Originally Posted by Bob Cash
When considering how little time we have on this earth, aren't they all best deals?
My most recent "Best Deal",

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Custom shop gun? 26”? Chokes? What’s it say on the top rib? Pretty gun Bob.
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