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Posted By: FallCreekFan Fracassi Engraving - 08/12/22 03:09 AM
I marvel at the engraving work of Firmo Fracassi. With a few inches of steel for a canvas and a hand held bulino (graver) he creates millions of dots that become scenes beyond comprehension. Gazing at a cape buffalo he created, Ruark's words come to life. "He looks like you owe him money." My favorites are his setters and I see that one of these, on a 20ga Rizzini, is in the August 26-28 Rock Island auction.

I have Stephen and Elena Lamboy's book on Fracassi. Each of us can decide for ourselves how he is able to create these intricate and near microscopic masterpieces. For me, I don't know how to understand it apart from the imago dei.

Even though he is in his 80's and still working a gun can take a year or more to complete so there can't be that many of them out there and the availability of this one is a rare happening.




This article from a 2011 Sporting Classics gives a brief introduction into his life and his and his daughter's art.

https://sportingclassicsdaily.com/firmo-fracassi/
Posted By: FallCreekFan Re: Fracassi Engraving - 08/12/22 02:17 PM
The Rizzini (my apologies for the picture of a picture)

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

BTW not my gun. If it was, it wouldn't be for sale.
Posted By: KY Jon Re: Fracassi Engraving - 08/12/22 02:25 PM
to me that style of engraving looks like a etched copy of a photograph. Almost too much detail. I agree it is a work of art.
Posted By: pipeliner Re: Fracassi Engraving - 08/12/22 11:02 PM
Never hear banknote style anymore.
Posted By: craigd Re: Fracassi Engraving - 08/13/22 05:51 AM
That level of portrait detail might be complimented by banknote style bordering and scroll. I guess it might be art deco style scroll work, but seems to come off as a harsh, imbalanced contrast, but still nice work.
Posted By: ROMAC Re: Fracassi Engraving - 08/13/22 11:41 AM
It is, without a doubt, beautiful work, but I have always liked deep chiseled engraving better.

Just my personal choice.
Posted By: FallCreekFan Re: Fracassi Engraving - 08/29/22 01:46 PM
The estimate on this Fracassi Rizzini was $100,000 - $150,000. Anyone see what it went for?
Posted By: FallCreekFan Re: Fracassi Engraving - 08/30/22 09:59 PM
Well, finally figured out how to query their site.

And the answer is?

$246,750.
Posted By: old colonel Re: Fracassi Engraving - 08/30/22 10:29 PM
I could never afford it. Even if I could, while an incredible work of the engraver’s art, bank note engraving is not my cup of tea as I am unclear as to it’s functional durability in the field.

Concur with Roman on liking deeply chiseled engraving better. Also tend toward the classic rose and scroll
Posted By: SKB Re: Fracassi Engraving - 08/30/22 10:38 PM
If they only would have had a pair, then I might have been a player wink
Posted By: Stanton Hillis Re: Fracassi Engraving - 08/31/22 01:43 AM
Speaking of Cape Bufffalo Ruark actually wrote "He looks at you like you owe him money."

And Roger's monicker is ROMAC, not Roman.
Posted By: FallCreekFan Re: Fracassi Engraving - 08/31/22 12:02 PM
Stan, I’m certainly not a Ruark scholar and would readily admit that he could have said a thing in different ways in different places but in studying Fracassi’s work on Cape Buffalo and especially the buff he created 30 years ago on a small oval belt buckle I found myself seeing through one man’s art what another man was saying through his. I did have to check to be sure that memory migration was not in play as what I’d read was long ago. In the first edition hard back version of Ruark’s “Use Enough Gun” (p. 96) he says of “mbogo”, he is, “… big and mean and ugly and hard to stop, and vindictive and cruel and surly and ornery. He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money.”

For Ruark to be able to see and then say this and for Fracassi to be able to profoundly express the same thing (and so much more) through his medium surely touches Jordan Peterson’s observation that true art “…opens your eyes to the domain of the transcendent.” And by way of application, “…unless you can make a connection to the transcendent then you don’t have the strength to prevail.”

Personally, the difficulties of this year have borne witness to the validity of this.
Posted By: damascus Re: Fracassi Engraving - 09/01/22 04:40 PM
This type of highly detailed photographic engraving is second to none though I do have reservations. I have seen two older Bulino engraved guns both guns where in a used condition, sadly the bottom of each action the engraving was practically non existent due to hand ware. also the lower section of each lock plate also showed sighs of ware reducing the engraving value. Sadly guns with this type of engraving are for long time looking at and short time shooting. That said I would still like to hang a new condition one on my study wall instead of a well worn pinfire I have there.
Posted By: Kutter Re: Fracassi Engraving - 09/01/22 08:59 PM
The bullino style engraving creates it's image by shadow.
That shadow is created by the tiny burr pushed up by the graver point.
The graver is sharpened to a very small V point with a narrow included angle and a very low face angle. This so the burr is raised with little effort. Just barely touching the surface will
produce a burr.
The Bullino graver is fragile compared to a standard line cutting graver because of it's low face angle. But with it you get the necessary sharp burr needed.

By changing the pressure and the angle that the graver makes with the surface of the work, those burrs can be manipulated in depth and size.
This produces differing shadow effects.
Add to that then how closely those burrs,,or 'dots' as they are often called,,are placed together and you can get anything from Black all the way to White and anything inbetw
on the Gray scale for 'color'.

Again placing them closer together or farther apart is the (simple!) key to forming the images themselves. The same idea as newsprint only in a much more detailed form of course.

Bullino scenes can loose some of their detail and photographic look when viewed at different angles. It's simply those shadows not showing up as well or not at all as the light and the standing burr that casts it are moved.

Wear to the surface removes the everything the engraver took countless hours to place there to create the image. So with heavy wear the image can disappear down to only a mear outline of character lines of the subject and some heavier background cuts.
If done on Gold inlay work, the wear can be gone very quickly from the soft alloys.

Bank Note Engraving is different in that it is done with lines cut with a graver.
The lines are incised (cut) and not done by raising small burrs to create an image.
BankNote does use dots and tiny dash markings but they are cut into the surface, not raised as burrs.
In BankNote the dots are used the same way as in Bullino in that closely grouped dots will show as a dark 'color' and loosely spaced as a lighter color.
Images can be made the same way by placing the dots and dashes together.

Cross hatch lines are also used extensively to shade engraving in banknote style
But they are all surface level cut lines on BankNote engraving.
BankNote was/is a form of print engraving, the shallow, thin lines holding the ink on the plate cut with the image.

When done on guns, the same style of cutting was used.
Nimschke used BankNote style on most all of his figures and scenes.
Posted By: SamW Re: Fracassi Engraving - 09/02/22 01:46 AM
Robert Swartley did fine banknote engraving. It is much less likely to wear, especially if case hardened.
Posted By: Remington40x Re: Fracassi Engraving - 09/02/22 01:23 PM
Kutter:

Thank you for that explanation. It makes both styles much clearer.

Rem
Posted By: FallCreekFan Re: Fracassi Engraving - 09/02/22 03:30 PM
Originally Posted by Kutter
The bullino style engraving creates it's image by shadow…
By changing the pressure and the angle that the graver makes with the surface of the work, those burrs can be manipulated in depth and size. This produces differing shadow effects. Add to that then how closely those burrs,,or 'dots' as they are often called,,are placed together and you can get anything from Black all the way to White and anything in between on the Gray scale for 'color'.

On the buckle buffalo that I mentioned above the background is black. I could not conceive how Fracassi could produce that without colorizing. Now I can. Thanks.
Posted By: SamW Re: Fracassi Engraving - 09/03/22 02:14 AM
Here is a photo of Bob's bank note engraved 1886 rifle...




https://engraverscafe.com/threads/robert-swartley.26923/
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