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Posted By: kemaltunali Army Navy CSL - 12/26/21 03:46 PM
Hey folks can you advise who might be the maker of my A&N BLE. I emailed Glasgow Uni and couldnt get any reference to the maker. Only details i got is gun was manufactured in 1889 for 41 pounds.

Thank you for your contributions!

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Posted By: John Roberts Re: Army Navy CSL - 12/26/21 05:54 PM
Doesn't matter.
JR
Posted By: Parabola Re: Army Navy CSL - 12/26/21 05:55 PM
Webley Screw grip.


Predates merger with Scott. Probably P. Webley and Sons.
Posted By: kemaltunali Re: Army Navy CSL - 12/26/21 06:54 PM
I thought it was P Webley as well but not sure bout it. Also there is a possibility that the action was bought in white from Webley and finished in other maker? There is a " 2HW " marking on the bottom rib. Thanks for the educated guess!
Posted By: bushveld Re: Army Navy CSL - 12/26/21 07:34 PM
That is an absolutely magnificent best quality A&D gun; and if I were it's proud owner it would be very important to me to know who made it. One of the most likely individuals in the British gun trade today who could tell you who made it by its appearance is Malcolm Cruxton of Price Street, Birmingham. He is still in the trade at 80 years of age having started when he was 14.

Kindest Regards;
Stephen Howell
Posted By: mc Re: Army Navy CSL - 12/27/21 02:17 AM
I can't tell if it's a screw grip but it is a great looking gun a p.webley gun is possible
Posted By: Ted Schefelbein Re: Army Navy CSL - 12/27/21 02:26 AM
Appears to have the hangers for intercepting sears. What style of ejectors does it have?

Classy little gun.

Best,
Ted
Posted By: kemaltunali Re: Army Navy CSL - 12/27/21 11:21 AM
Yes it does have intercepting sears. The ejectors are a bit unusual type, " W. Anson Ejector " uploading photos.

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Posted By: L. Brown Re: Army Navy CSL - 12/27/21 12:52 PM
Piece of cake to tell if it's a screw grip: Look into the slot on the breech face where the rib extension fits. You should be able to see threads where the rib extension engages.

My best guess is that your gun is an Anson & Webley, made by P. Webley before the merger with Scott. I have one of those made for William Evans in 1901. (Webley and Scott continued to make those Webley screw grips even after the merger. Until 1940, in fact.) My guess is based on information and photos in "The History of W. & C. Scott Gunmakers" by Crawford and Whatley". I'd recommend purchasing a copy of that book.

Mine is slightly fancier than yours with deep carving on the fences, but otherwise they're very similar. Mine is the Model 51, which sold in 1906 for 58 pounds. Yours is quite likely the Model 52, selling for 48 pounds in 1906. Features, price, etc seem a good fit. The higher grade Webley screw grips, like mine and yours, used a doll's head rib extension. On the less expensive screw grips, the rib extension was straight.
Posted By: ed good Re: Army Navy CSL - 12/27/21 02:16 PM
tea any one?
Posted By: mc Re: Army Navy CSL - 12/27/21 06:02 PM
Rib extension does not look like a screw grip nice gun
Posted By: LeFusil Re: Army Navy CSL - 12/27/21 06:12 PM
Looks like a screw grip extension to me, complete with step and two piece top lever.
Posted By: AlanD Re: Army Navy CSL - 12/28/21 05:11 AM
At 41 Pounds in 1889 it must have been the highest made box lock one could buy. Beautifully figure wood in the stock as well.

Regards

AlanD
Posted By: Parabola Re: Army Navy CSL - 12/28/21 11:18 AM
Indeed. In 1895 my made to order Edwinson Green BLE cost £35 plus 3 Guineas for the Whitworth steel chopper lump barrels (so £38/3/0d.).

£41 in 1891 was certainly a best boxlock.
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