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Posted By: Owenjj3 OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/03/21 02:16 PM
I am primarily a walking hunter and generally have no need for an OHV. However, we have logged a more remote section of the farm where we intended to hunt and the road is quite steep. Also I have an aging FIL who is starting to need some assistance getting into remote areas. All this is to say, I am in the market for an OHV or Mule-type vehicle. Having never owned one, I am interested in reliability and durability. My inclination is toward the Honda product as I’ve use their other power equipment very effectively in my yard and other places, But I am interested to hear others’ thoughts.
Posted By: Geo. Newbern Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/03/21 02:45 PM
Owen, I have a Bad Boy Buggy rigged for quail hunting. It is electric with front and rear motors. It is a comfortable ride and will go anywhere quietly...Geo
Posted By: Ted Schefelbein Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/03/21 02:48 PM
No clue on the vehicle itself. But, before you go shopping, double check the laws on passengers, firearms transportation, and use on non owned lands for same. I’ve heard of game wardens making passengers get off and walk if the vehicle didn’t have proper racks for guns, and proper seating for passengers. Here in Minnesota, I’m pretty sure it is a big no-no if you actually fire a gun from the vehicle, as well.
Good luck.

Best,
Ted
Posted By: John Roberts Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/03/21 02:49 PM
The Polaris Ranger is the 800 lb. gorilla in sales, but this machine is better:

https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/side...e=GLOBALNAV-_-PRODUCTGROUPLIST-_-VEHICLE

I've owned one for 3 years and it has been superb. By far, the best riding sxs out there, and dealers who handle all brands will tell you it's the most reliable, trouble-free machine out there.

JR
Posted By: Cold Iron Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/03/21 04:02 PM
3 almost 4 years ago when I was in a similar situation I started by looking at Honda also. Honda is one of the few that actually has a transmission instead of a CVT and belt drive. Yamaha and Kawasaki were backup options along with John Deere, my FIL loved his Gator. I highly recommend that you actually drive them all. Most sales places have obstacle courses so that you can test them out. When it was all said and done I went with Polaris XP 1000 Northstar after driving each of the above and it wasn't even on my radar when I started. I have a full cab with heat and AC. The thing puts a smile on my face to this day every time I drive it. Especially in the summer shooting on Sporting Clay courses in heat and humidity. But also the cushy ride over rough terrain on the North Shore of Lake Superior and it will and has gone everywhere I have asked it to.

50 inch width restrictions exist on many NFS roads and I did consider a Honda Pioneer 500 but a friend of mine had just purchased one and it beat the snot of you with the short wheel travel. Lifting it and modifying the suspension helps but makes such a small vehicle even more unstable on rough terrain. He ended up selling it after a year. I left WNC where I had retired from the Navy in 99 so not sure what the restrictions on roads and NFS roads are now. Used to be able to drive the truck on most of the NFS roads but when the UTV and ATV's started to take off the Forest Service solved the additional vehicle traffic by gating and closing many of the roads to all vehicle traffic. In Mn. you can ride a UTV on pretty much all roads and most NFS roads too, hopefully the same applies to WNC by now.

There are a LOT of aftermarket accessories for Polaris more so than any makes due to the sheer volume that are made and sold. Wasn't going to pay $3-4K for a topper and dog box for the bed so built my own out of 1/2" exterior grade baltic birch and customized it to fit my needs.

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I leave the box on in the winter for shooting and also to keep snow out of the bed LOL.

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During the summer I use it for Sporting Clays and can carry a couple extra people in the bed. The AyA N°2 16 ga. on the rack in the bed belongs to a friend, it is not mine.

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More times than not it is carrying SxS guns however

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When you get over 50" width class you often have people saying why not just a Jeep? The ones that say that have never owned a UTV. Ride is hugely better in a UTV and doesn't beat you up off road. Lighter and can go places Jeeps can not

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When meeting a vehicle coming the other way on a 2 track it is easy for me to pull over between 2 trees and do. The driver coming the other way invariable stops and rolls the window down to thank me saying they had no place to pull over. My friends FJ compared to the buggy and I almost went with a FJ.

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I'm thankful that I didn't and extremely pleased with my choice. So are the dogs. I ripped the back seat out of the Taco and made a dog bench

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But got real tired of getting beat up and also beating the truck up. it is now just a tow vehicle for the buggy. I should have gotten a UTV sooner not wait until I was 60.
Posted By: Ken Nelson Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/03/21 06:41 PM
I’ve got a Ranger Crew. Mostly used for hauling around my shooting buds on sporting clays courses. Although the wife also uses it in her gardening activities it’s has long wheel base and reminds one of the old trucker song”give me forty acres and I’ll turn this rig around.” It’s been reliable and has a super ride.

If I was leaning more towards reliability, utility and durability I’d go with a Kubota diesel. They aren’t a hot rod by any means but are tough to wear out.
Posted By: 28 gauge shooter Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/03/21 07:10 PM
I have the Kawasaki mule for the past 4 years, it’s maintenance free and does what we ask of it. However, if your of off the beaten path in rough conditions, it will beat you to death and you’ll need to lock the differential in 99% of the time if it’s muddy and a little steep. Or your not going anywhere. The mules top speed is around 25mph if that matters. It is a workhorse in terms of towing and hauling.

This past Turkey season while hunting in KY, the lodge I stayed had a Polaris 1000 North Star that I used to get in and out of during that rain / snow storm that put about 2 inches or so of snow on the ground. I was impressed with the machine, ride 100 times better than the mule, the heater, defroster was great. It got us back in the back 40 where my Avalanche would of failed us. I drove in opened the gate, and drove about a mile on a gravel red clay road sideways in the Avalanche before I turned around and picked up the Polaris just past the gate.

My hunting buddy in NY had a Polaris but traded it in on a Honda sxs. With all the bells on it plus the triangle tank like treads for it. Help in deep snow. While up there this Turkey season he was talking about giving it to his son for his business and getting a new Polaris 1000.

Try them all, as none of them are cheap. And a couple grand one way or the is not a hill to on. Each machine has its pros an cons.

Rich
Posted By: ClapperZapper Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/03/21 07:15 PM
Kawasaki Mule Pro-MX here.
Heated, cabbed, POWER STEERING, mid sized, and just plain fun.
Two covered dog boxes in the back.
Top speed 45mph.
Bench seat

You trade the width of the Pro-fx model for a lighter, more maneuverable package.

The Rhino we had was very hot in the cab, and too noisy.
Older Polaris Ranger’s have the exhaust manifold under the passenger seat. They will burn your ass.

Polaris has 50x the accessories of any other brand. Every one is $300.00 lol. And everything is an option on a Polaris.

Cab noise is a problem with most brands.

It makes late season hunts incredibly enjoyable.

Take some for a ride if you can find a dealer with any inventory.
Posted By: mark Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/03/21 07:31 PM
About a year ago we went with a Honda Pioneer 1000-5. We have been very happy with it. I have been a Honda guy since 1971. Have not needed anything but a oil change. Like the versatility of the dump box and fold down back seats.

Have used it for clays, trail rides, utility work around the property and recently our township and city has opened up the roads to ATVs and UTZs so we run errands and go to dinner with it.

No regrets.
Posted By: John Roberts Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/03/21 07:31 PM
Originally Posted by 28 gauge shooter
I have the Kawasaki mule for the past 4 years, it’s maintenance free and does what we ask of it. However, if your of off the beaten path in rough conditions, it will beat you to death and you’ll need to lock the differential in 99% of the time if it’s muddy and a little steep. Or your not going anywhere. The mules top speed is around 25mph if that matters. It is a workhorse in terms of towing and hauling.
Rich

You've got the old version that has long been superseded, and everything you wrote is true. No comparison between it and the new Pro FXT.
JR
Posted By: Bob Jurewicz Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/03/21 08:40 PM
I'll second Geo Newburn's recommendation of an electric UTV. I have a Bad Boy Buggy Ambush which is a hybrid, gas and electric. Mine has electric front drive and gas rear. It will run on either individually or both together. It has locking differential both front and rear so if you need 4 wheels locked and driving you got it. I have used it for quail hunting behind dogs, deer and pig hunting. When you don't need the quite anymore you can switch to gas power and recharge your batteries. I'm not sure if they are made anymore but I love mine. Polaris makes a 72 Volt all electric which is great. I seriously consided it but hunt in long distance remote areas and feared dead batteries.
Bob Jurewicz
Posted By: Ken Nelson Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/03/21 09:42 PM
A buddy just dropped 30 large on a Polaris.
As mentioned previously everything is an option. Shoot, I’m too cheap to buy a rear view mirror for mine! 😀
Posted By: Owenjj3 Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/04/21 02:16 AM
Thanks gentlemen, lots of good info here. I will expand my search beyond Honda and take my time.
Posted By: Stanton Hillis Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/04/21 11:07 AM
One of the places I hunt ducks in AR has several UTVs for going into and out of the flooded fields where the blinds are. They have only Honda Pioneers for the reason the axles are submerged in water and mud for hundreds of yards each day. They told me that no other brand of UTV has seals that hold up to the water and mud as well as the ones on the Honda. The Polaris eats drive belts, when run constantly in the water and mud, they told me. Honda's don't have a belt drive. Most people don't need the high degree of "waterproofness" of the Honda's axle seals, but I just thought it was interesting.
Posted By: 28 gauge shooter Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/04/21 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by John Roberts
Originally Posted by 28 gauge shooter
I have the Kawasaki mule for the past 4 years, it’s maintenance free and does what we ask of it. However, if your of off the beaten path in rough conditions, it will beat you to death and you’ll need to lock the differential in 99% of the time if it’s muddy and a little steep. Or your not going anywhere. The mules top speed is around 25mph if that matters. It is a workhorse in terms of towing and hauling.
Rich

You've got the old version that has long been superseded, and everything you wrote is true. No comparison between it and the new Pro FXT.
JR

I need to go and check the newer model may be time to trade up!
Posted By: Cold Iron Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/04/21 03:56 PM
One of the reasons I looked at Honda first, besides the name, was the transmission. Turns out the CVT and belts issue is really not an issue for most people in real life. If you are sensible in how you use it anyways. Water entry is usually through breather or vent tubes. First thing I do on all my trucks is put a breather extension on the diffs.

Polaris makes a special edition for waterfowl hunters the Hi Lifter. Many waterfowl guides use them.

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You can get extensions for the CVT air intake snorkels if you think you are going really deep

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I downloaded the service manual for the Hi Lifter and extended my vent lines to the same locations as the Hi Lifter. No need for snorkels if I keep my head on my shoulders, when I was younger much younger with my FJ55 Iron pig it was more like hold my beer and watch this. Now not so much. While I carry more than a 100 pounds of recovery gear including a chainsaw my goal in life now is to NOT need to use any of it laugh

Here beaver dams or is that damn beavers? cause a lot of water crossing issues. I get the Toller out and throw a stick for him to check the water deepness if I have any doubts.

Dog is starting to think he is part beaver by now.

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Swimming hard and did pretty much the whole way out. With a fairly strong current in the middle.

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Hard pass on that one there are other places to hunt. And the BWCA Wilderness starts just on the other side of the rise anyhow.
Posted By: GMCS Re: OT Recommended UTV SxS - 07/04/21 04:41 PM
that place is made for an ARGO. Looks like the "road ' out to our duck blinds. we have a couple at our camp and they go anywhere. one has a small transom on the back for crossing larger creeks they will cross with just the tracks but are slow. worth starting the motor if deep enough.
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