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Posted By: Chuck H Another Italian 410 - 09/28/20 11:27 PM
I just received the 410 I had ordered 2 years ago from Rizzini.
I was having a hard time finding what I wanted on the rack and the one I did find had a fence post for a stock. I looked for a year or so, then decided to order.

Its a standard BR550 410, 3" chambers, 30" bbls, screw choked. The rest you can see in the pix. The wood is their best grade. Maybe they were drying the wood while I waited?

Some pix with my old Ferlib Model 7 410, 28".



Posted By: Geo. Newbern Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/28/20 11:31 PM
Chuck, that's a beauty...Geo
Posted By: Buzz Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/28/20 11:33 PM
Wow!
Posted By: Shotgunjones Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 12:11 AM
Very Nice Chuck.

That seems worth the wait.

I'm in month 20 of a 15 month wait for a Shiloh. Time drags.

Tip: The Anson latch actuator button and shaft is held to the foreend iron by a set screw that takes a .050" hex as I recall. I suggest you locktite that set screw.

Ask me how i know this....

You'll like your Rizzini. I like mine, and I did find the latch button on the skeet field!
Posted By: Brian Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 12:43 AM
That wood is decadent!!!!
Thou shall not covet thy neighbors shotgun!!!
Posted By: skeettx Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 12:44 AM
Will you adopt me?
Posted By: battle Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 12:59 AM
Wow Chuck super nice!
Posted By: Karl Graebner Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 01:06 AM
Chuck,
I often dream of wood such as yours. Extremely beautiful shotgun!
Karl
Posted By: Chuck H Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 01:55 AM
Ya know I'm willing to sell one of the items in the pix cheap.
But you might have to put some wax on it.

I was really hoping to stir up Stan. I know he's thinking about second dove season.
Posted By: Shotgunjones Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 03:30 AM
OK, let's try this again.

The set screw is of course 1.5 mm.

A mind is a terrible thing to lose.
Posted By: Chuck H Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 04:56 AM
Originally Posted By: Shotgunjones
Very Nice Chuck.

That seems worth the wait.

I'm in month 20 of a 15 month wait for a Shiloh. Time drags.

Tip: The Anson latch actuator button and shaft is held to the foreend iron by a set screw that takes a .050" hex as I recall. I suggest you locktite that set screw.

Ask me how i know this....

You'll like your Rizzini. I like mine, and I did find the latch button on the skeet field!

Originally Posted By: Shotgunjones
OK, let's try this again.

The set screw is of course 1.5 mm.

A mind is a terrible thing to lose.



Jonesey, Thanks for the headsup on the latch. I'm on it.
Posted By: DoubleTake Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 12:41 PM
Beautiful gun, Chuck. I wouldn't mind having a 30" 28 gauge like that one.
Posted By: KY Jon Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 01:09 PM
If I knew I had ten year more allotted to me, well twelve with the wait, I’d order one for myself. But with 32” barrels. Yours is a nice looking double as I have seen in a long time. Hope you get to enjoy it for a very long time.
Posted By: ithaca1 Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 01:35 PM
Stunning!!!!
Posted By: PALUNC Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 02:01 PM
Any reason why it would take two years to receive? I too am looking at Rizzini guns and was thinking of ordering one special as well.
Posted By: BrentD, Prof Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 02:30 PM
That's spectacular. The wood is beyond that. Just perfect.
Posted By: Chuck H Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 02:44 PM
Originally Posted By: PALUNC
Any reason why it would take two years to receive? I too am looking at Rizzini guns and was thinking of ordering one special as well.


Mike,
I don't know why they took so long. I kept my order to a standard optioned gun, except the wood, just to keep it from becoming a long term project. I was quoted something like 3-6 months, IIRC.

I kept checking in with John Mogle at Rizzini USA after that time had passed every few months. It went to a year and I almost pulled my deposit in Aug 2019. For the next year I was busy at work, then retired in Jan, then covid, and finally, I realized I still had this gun on order and was definitely going to cancel it early this July. They checked with Italy and evidently my order was located and fast tracked. So, they can build a gun in a month if it's at the top of the stack.

You might call John Mogle and have him check with Italy to see what their ability/capacity is at this time. Covid hit that area of Italy harder than most. We were actually planning a vacation to that area before covid.
Posted By: eightbore Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 03:41 PM
Who is John Mogle and what is his relationship with previous owners of the Rizzini USA brand? Is this the same Rizzini brand that Tony Galazan and others owned?
Posted By: Chuck H Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 03:52 PM
Murph, from their website...

About Rizzini USA
Rizzini USA is owned and operated by Fierce Products in Gunnison, Utah. The CEO of Fierce Products is John Mogle. John has been in the firearms business for over 18 years and knows what it takes to deliver a product that not only meets the customer’s expectations but exceeds their expectations in both quality and customer service. Fierce Products and Rizzini USA will stand behind every sporting arm that they sell. They offer a three year unconditional mechanical parts warranty on all shotguns distributed by Fierce. There is no better time than now to get Rizzini.
Posted By: Shotgunjones Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 04:12 PM
The Rizzini name is used by at least 4 different companies in Italy that I'm aware of.

FAIR/Rizzini, B. Rizzini, F.lli Rizzini, and E. Rizzini. There may be others current or past.

Chuck's new gun is made by B. Rizzini (Battista) in Marcheno V.T. Italy, as is mine.

There is some question in my mind if Fierce Products is actually the 'exclusive' importer of B. Rizzini at this time as they claim.

WLM in Scottsdale claims to import B. Rizzini, but my gun which is dated 2007 by the Italian proof house is marked 'Hi Grade Imports ' on the keel rib. It is also marked 'William Larkin Moore' on the barrels.

Cole did import and service B. Rizzini for a time. I don't know about CSMC. In any event, they certainly never 'owned' any Rizzini name.

Battista has a reputation as being difficult to deal with. If this is true or not is likely subject to point of view, but the fact is that B. Rizzini has had several importers over the years.

Posted By: Stanton Hillis Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 04:14 PM
Consider me stirred. Chuck, that is one beautiful .410. Everything about it looks to be perfection.

What is the DAH?

SRH
Posted By: Chuck H Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 04:53 PM
On the RizziniUSA site, his dealer locator shows WL Moore as a dealer.

My barrels carry the importer's mark, per the ATF reg.
Underside of the barrels,covered by the forend...

Posted By: Chuck H Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 05:02 PM
Originally Posted By: Stan
Consider me stirred. Chuck, that is one beautiful .410. Everything about it looks to be perfection.

What is the DAH?

SRH


Hey, Stan!
You're up and about. Great news.

The stock specs are 1 5/16" x 2 1/4 with 3/8" cast off. The comb is higher than I normally shoot, but with the 3/8" cast, it works perfectly for me. Our range pattern board is being relocated so, I fired a lot of dirt bank shots. It appears to print on POA.
Posted By: PALUNC Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 06:11 PM
Well don't know what you paid but you got your moneys worth
Posted By: PALUNC Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 09:32 PM
Two beautiful 410's, what do you shoot with them?
Posted By: Chuck H Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/29/20 11:14 PM
Mike,
The shorter gun, the Ferlib has been used for quail, dove, huns, chukar, and pheasant. The new gun is intended for the same.
Posted By: Shotgunjones Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/30/20 01:01 AM
It's a stunning gun Chuck. Congrats.

The high comb and long pull is what attracted me to the WLM 'Upland EL SxS'.

It's their own version of the BR550, but without screw chokes and much less embellishment. Mine is a 20 gauge, 29.5" and weighs exactly 6 pounds with two shells in it. Because of of the long pull and long barrels it handles like a slightly heavier gun.

It has carved fences and a case colored frame. They do a very, very nice high polish blue on the barrels. The triggers are above average. It shoots to point of hold.

There's a lot to like with these B. Rizzini SxS guns.
Posted By: Chuck H Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/30/20 03:26 AM
Thanks SGJ.
This little gun weighs 5lbs 11 oz, but swings like a heavier gun.

Over the years, I looked at a few 410 sxs Extra Lusso B. Rizzini guns that WLM had. I liked their engraving better. ...and now, the old prices too.
Posted By: HomelessjOe Re: Another Italian 410 - 09/30/20 04:07 AM
I saw not one but two Browning Superposed .410s at my buddies gun shop one was early 1960's the other late 1960's....

Almost stirred me.
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