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Posted By: canvasback Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 01:03 AM
Great news out of Virginia tonight.

The Virginia assault weapon ban died in committee today.

Anyone who had anything to do with this, including those who attended the rally a couple weeks ago should be proud of their winning efforts.
Posted By: Argo44 Re: Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 01:08 AM
95 counties and cities declared themselves 2nd Amendment sanctuaries. A dozen counties in the Shennendoah area declared themselves ready to join West Virginia. When a group takes over the government, tears down the past, legislates a new future, without taking into account the history of the state and the will of its citizens, threatens their way of life, freedom, and livelihood, a revolution will happen. It was deadly serious here....for awhile...the story's not over though and may never be over.
Posted By: canvasback Re: Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 01:11 AM
You are correct Argo. It will probably never be over. But this was a good battle won.
Posted By: craigd Re: Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 02:15 AM
Originally Posted By: canvasback
....It will probably never be over. But this was a good battle won.

There is a fellow that very well might buy the dem presidential nomination. He appears to have largely purchased that state's legislature for his agenda. It's a national strategy preview, not the strategy. The best part is the intentional hypocrisy of party supporters.
Posted By: keith Re: Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 03:10 AM
The threat against the Constitutional 2nd Amendment Rights of law abiding citizens in Virginia came from one place... Liberal Left Democrats. It was a Democrat Governor and a Democrat controlled legislature that attempted this anti-gun effort. This was also supported by Michael Bloomberg and other Democrat Presidential candidates.

It is almost 100% certain that when there attempts to infringe upon our Constitutional 2nd Amendment Rights anywhere in this nation, Democrats will be behind it.

There is no way to sugar-coat it, and there is no reason to avoid that fact. Many people vote Democrat because they desire restrictions, and even the abolishing of gun rights. Unfortunately, we have gun owners right here that blindly support the Democrats who are the greatest threat to our Gun Rights.

The question for guys like rocky mtn bill and others here is this...

Do you support the 2nd Amendment...

... or are you a Democrat???


You can't be both.
Posted By: canvasback Re: Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 04:01 AM
Originally Posted By: craigd
Originally Posted By: canvasback
....It will probably never be over. But this was a good battle won.

There is a fellow that very well might buy the dem presidential nomination. He appears to have largely purchased that state's legislature for his agenda. It's a national strategy preview, not the strategy. The best part is the intentional hypocrisy of party supporters.


It's a fascinating perversion of your democratic traditions. Little talk in the MSM about that while all I could find this evening is fearmongering about what to do if Trump refuses to cede power if he loses the election. Sometimes their hypocrisy is jaw dropping.
Posted By: BrentD, Prof Re: Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 04:06 AM
Originally Posted By: canvasback
Originally Posted By: craigd
Originally Posted By: canvasback
....It will probably never be over. But this was a good battle won.

There is a fellow that very well might buy the dem presidential nomination. He appears to have largely purchased that state's legislature for his agenda. It's a national strategy preview, not the strategy. The best part is the intentional hypocrisy of party supporters.


It's a fascinating perversion of your democratic traditions. Little talk in the MSM about that while all I could find this evening is fearmongering about what to do if Trump refuses to cede power if he loses the election. Sometimes their hypocrisy is jaw dropping.


Where did you find this palaver about emperor Trump? I see not a single word about it, but lots about the Virginia results.
Posted By: craigd Re: Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 04:53 AM
Originally Posted By: canvasback
....all I could find this evening is fearmongering about what to do if Trump refuses to cede power if he loses the election. Sometimes their hypocrisy is jaw dropping.

Hey pal from Canada, it's something I've lavered over for quite some time. Do emperors have to even participate with elections? It's tough to pick up where they are coming from, but some opposition research type audio and video clips have been coming out the last week or two. Bloomberg's been checking off all the sexist, racist, class warfare and elitist boxes that would make a rino cower, 'cept he's claiming to be a dem. It sure looks like his campaign is assuming a little quid pro quo, for the multi millions he doled out to build the Va progressive majority, in the dems upcoming super tuesday.
Posted By: canvasback Re: Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 05:11 AM
Maybe I’m getting a different news feed up here. I believe it started with a question to Buttigieg earlier today.
Posted By: keith Re: Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 05:50 AM
All Hail Emperor For Life, Donald J. Trump... Protector of the 2nd Amendment!




Do you support the 2nd Amendment...

... or are you a Democrat???
Posted By: dal Re: Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 02:49 PM
Originally Posted By: keith
All Hail Emperor For Life, Donald J. Trump... Protector of the 2nd Amendment!




Do you support the 2nd Amendment...

... or are you a Democrat???


Quite the choice....allow and support the creation of a king, who can do, and is doing, 'whatever he wants'....but in so doing, insure you can keep all your guns.

To bad there is no Republican that would hold up the entire constitution, including the right to bare arms, and yet respect the founding fathers determination to create a true democracy.
Posted By: lonesome roads Re: Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 04:19 PM
Originally Posted By: dal

Quite the choice....allow and support the creation of a king, who can do, and is doing, 'whatever he wants'....but in so doing, insure you can keep all your guns.

To bad there is no Republican that would hold up the entire constitution, including the right to bare arms, and yet respect the founding fathers determination to create a true democracy.


You, sir, are a Canadian idiot.


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Posted By: dukxdog Re: Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 09:53 PM
Here, here...long live the KING! Appoint more judges! Build the wall! Reduce illegal immigration! Photo ID for voting! Abandon the climate change HOAX! PRO 2A!!! More fair trade agreements! Bring down unemployment! Tough on terrorists!
Keep Electoral College!

It's been a good start!

Trump 2020!
Posted By: Ted Schefelbein Re: Well done Virginia - 02/18/20 10:37 PM
Originally Posted By: lonesome roads
Originally Posted By: dal

Quite the choice....allow and support the creation of a king, who can do, and is doing, 'whatever he wants'....but in so doing, insure you can keep all your guns.

To bad there is no Republican that would hold up the entire constitution, including the right to bare arms, and yet respect the founding fathers determination to create a true democracy.


You, sir, are a Canadian idiot.


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So much for looking out your window and seeing Windsor, eh Lucas?

Best,
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You said it like it was a good thing.....
Posted By: dal Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 12:11 AM
Well the king made it official...in his own words..."I am actually the chief law enforcement officer of the country". And pardoned 11? criminals today.

Good luck, you are now officially plebeians.

PS- I trully don't envy your position...vote in super left socialists, or continue to support a king...

Trudumb looks pretty good about now!
Posted By: Ted Schefelbein Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 12:17 AM
Originally Posted By: dal
Well the king made it official...in his own words..."I am actually the chief law enforcement officer of the country". And pardoned 11? criminals today.

Good luck, you are now officially plebeians.

PS- I trully don't envy your position...vote in super left socialists, or continue to support a king...

Trudumb looks pretty good about now!





I’m guessing you believe the notion of a Presidential pardon has never occurred before today?

Best,
Ted
Posted By: Hal Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 12:22 AM
The VA governor will not like the results of this study.



https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/...m_content=Final
Posted By: dal Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 12:28 AM
Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted By: dal
Well the king made it official...in his own words..."I am actually the chief law enforcement officer of the country". And pardoned 11? criminals today.

Good luck, you are now officially plebeians.

PS- I trully don't envy your position...vote in super left socialists, or continue to support a king...

Trudumb looks pretty good about now!





I’m guessing you believe the notion of a Presidential pardon has never occurred before today?

Best,
Ted


I do believe in pardons.
Posted By: keith Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 01:12 AM
Originally Posted By: dal


Trudumb looks pretty good about now!





Yes, he sho' enuff do. You keep the anti-gun Liberal Left Socialist hypocrite Justin (Blackface) Trudeau, and we will keep the guy who saved us from Hillary Clinton and at least two more anti-2nd Amendment Supreme Court Justices.

If Hillary had been elected, there is almost no doubt that Ruth Bader Ginsberg would also have retired by now, to insure that her anti-gun Liberal Left legacy would remain for years to come.

Trump is doing almost everything we elected him to do. The only thing that is keeping him from doing an even better job is a Liberal Left Democrat controlled House of Representatives.
Posted By: lonesome roads Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 01:12 AM
Originally Posted By: dal
Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted By: dal
Well the king made it official...in his own words..."I am actually the chief law enforcement officer of the country". And pardoned 11? criminals today.

Good luck, you are now officially plebeians.

PS- I trully don't envy your position...vote in super left socialists, or continue to support a king...

Trudumb looks pretty good about now!





I’m guessing you believe the notion of a Presidential pardon has never occurred before today?

Best,
Ted


I do believe in pardons.


Who’s going to win this battle? The brain scientist or the rocket surgeon?


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Posted By: Ted Schefelbein Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 01:26 AM
Originally Posted By: lonesome roads
Originally Posted By: dal
Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted By: dal
Well the king made it official...in his own words..."I am actually the chief law enforcement officer of the country". And pardoned 11? criminals today.

Good luck, you are now officially plebeians.

PS- I trully don't envy your position...vote in super left socialists, or continue to support a king...

Trudumb looks pretty good about now!





I’m guessing you believe the notion of a Presidential pardon has never occurred before today?

Best,
Ted


I do believe in pardons.


Who’s going to win this battle? The brain scientist or the rocket surgeon?


___________________________
Welcome to Windsor! At least we’re not Winnipeg!
https://youtu.be/BQMoKqCC9KQ



For sure, nobody in Detroit.


Best,
Ted

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Posted By: dal Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 01:34 AM
Originally Posted By: keith
Originally Posted By: dal


Trudumb looks pretty good about now!





Yes, he sho' enuff do. You keep the anti-gun Liberal Left Socialist hypocrite Justin (Blackface) Trudeau, and we will keep the guy who saved us from Hillary Clinton and at least two more anti-2nd Amendment Supreme Court Justices.

If Hillary had been elected, there is almost no doubt that Ruth Bader Ginsberg would also have retired by now, to insure that her anti-gun Liberal Left legacy would remain for years to come.

Trump is doing almost everything we elected him to do. The only thing that is keeping him from doing an even better job is a Liberal Left Democrat controlled House of Representatives.


I agree.
The only disagreement we may have is the current and future constitutional cost
American's may suffer, and how todays president may give scary gun abolishing powers to a future democratic/socialist president.
Posted By: eeb Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 02:05 AM
Actually, four democrat senators voted with republicans in committee to reject the “assault” weapons and hi-cap magazine ban. Our governors anti-2A slate of legislation has only been partially successful because a small group of democrats have not swallowed his agenda hook line and sinker. These legislators heard the voices of 22,000 (some heavily armed) citizens who showed up at the Capitol to support all things 2A
Posted By: craigd Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 02:39 AM
I thought seven of eight antigun bills went forward, and this 'assault' bill was only tabled for a year? I saw an interview with one of the four dems, interesting. He said his mind was made up regardless of input from his constituents. And, he said the only part of the bill that he objected to was that criminality for possession of legally obtained arms was retro active. All that seems to mean is that the rest of the progressives have one year to buy his vote, when this and certainly more anti second bills are introduced in Virginia.

Notes are being taken and strategies are being drawn up for taking biggger and bigger national increments based on these test cases.

edit to add: hypocrisy, nothing motivates right of center folks on all issues, like a dal does.
Posted By: Stanton Hillis Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 02:51 AM
If you are right, and the situation in VA progresses to deflagration, Argo44 may well be right, and revolt may result.

SRH
Posted By: dal Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 03:00 AM
....
edit to add: hypocrisy, nothing motivates right of center folks on all issues, like a dal does. [/quote]

huh ?
Posted By: Stanton Hillis Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 03:21 AM
We were motivated far before the "dals" came along. It happened in the 1770s. Your importance is more in your own mind than in the minds of the right "right".

SRH
Posted By: craigd Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 04:02 AM
Originally Posted By: Stan
We were motivated far before the "dals" came along. It happened in the 1770s. Your importance is more in your own mind....

Sorry about that Stan, it's just my opinion. I had other thoughts, but they aren't necessary other than they definitely didn't question your motivations.
Posted By: keith Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 05:52 AM
Originally Posted By: dal


I agree.
The only disagreement we may have is the current and future constitutional cost
American's may suffer, and how todays president may give scary gun abolishing powers to a future democratic/socialist president.


Seriously??? Perhaps you really never saw or heard any of us discussing the many Executive Orders Barack Hussein Obama signed to circumvent what he could not get past Congress. A number of those Executive Orders were signed to impose restrictions on the Constitutional Gun Rights of law abiding U.S. Citizens. And at the same time, non-citizens who were illegally crossing the border by the millions were given a pass, and given freebies like Welfare, Food Stamps, Education, and Health Care, courtesy of the U.S. taxpayers.



And you say you are concerned about what some future Democrat/Socialist President might do to restrict the 2nd Amendment. Holy crap man... are you thinking at all? The Heller and McDonald Supreme Court decisions of 2008 and 2010 affirming the Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms both passed by a 5 to 4 margin. So how do you think we would fare for years to come if a Hillary, Biden, Sanders, or Bloomberg got the chance to seat a few more anti-2nd Amendment Justices?
Posted By: Stanton Hillis Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 11:54 AM
Originally Posted By: craigd
Originally Posted By: Stan
We were motivated far before the "dals" came along. It happened in the 1770s. Your importance is more in your own mind....

Sorry about that Stan, it's just my opinion. I had other thoughts, but they aren't necessary other than they definitely didn't question your motivations.


Keith, I did not realize dal was quoting you. The lack of your quote being in a box caused me to think it was his statement. I was NOT making a statement about YOUR importance, rather dal's (lack of, on this board). Your contributions have always been appreciated by me. My post above was directed to him, not you. My apologies for being wrong and causing the confusion.

Posted By: Mills Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 04:22 PM
Originally Posted By: canvasback
Great news out of Virginia tonight.

The Virginia assault weapon ban died in committee today.

Anyone who had anything to do with this, including those who attended the rally a couple weeks ago should be proud of their winning efforts.



Amen! There is still a long fight ahead
Posted By: dal Re: Well done Virginia - 02/19/20 09:43 PM
Originally Posted By: keith
Originally Posted By: dal


I agree.
The only disagreement we may have is the current and future constitutional cost
American's may suffer, and how todays president may give scary gun abolishing powers to a future democratic/socialist president.


Seriously??? Perhaps you really never saw or heard any of us discussing the many Executive Orders Barack Hussein Obama signed to circumvent what he could not get past Congress. A number of those Executive Orders were signed to impose restrictions on the Constitutional Gun Rights of law abiding U.S. Citizens. And at the same time, non-citizens who were illegally crossing the border by the millions were given a pass, and given freebies like Welfare, Food Stamps, Education, and Health Care, courtesy of the U.S. taxpayers.



And you say you are concerned about what some future Democrat/Socialist President might do to restrict the 2nd Amendment. Holy crap man... are you thinking at all? The Heller and McDonald Supreme Court decisions of 2008 and 2010 affirming the Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms both passed by a 5 to 4 margin. So how do you think we would fare for years to come if a Hillary, Biden, Sanders, or Bloomberg got the chance to seat a few more anti-2nd Amendment Justices?


You are right Keith. But that does not mean what trump is doing is right either. Wrong is wrong, irregardless of the color of its stripes
Posted By: craigd Re: Well done Virginia - 02/20/20 12:36 AM
Originally Posted By: dal
....But that does not mean what trump is doing is right either. Wrong is wrong, irregardless of the color of its stripes

Maybe so dal, but don’t you think some particulars are a good idea? Read cbacks earlier comment. Do you think you are basing you comment on skewed reporting up around your neck of the woods. Facts? Do you have them like black face pictures of your pm? Not too bad eh? Different standards? Maybe, but why’d you folks re-elect him, mindset, culture?
Posted By: Argo44 Re: Well done Virginia - 02/20/20 12:55 AM
I don't much like commenting on politics. But the assault ban attempt in Virginia just beaten back was the thin edge of a very large wedge. This is going to be a continuous fight:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...674f_story.html
Posted By: ellenbr Re: Well done Virginia - 02/20/20 01:09 AM
I don't either but I will again break protocol by posting this circa 1969 quote:

Direct Quote-

>>The purpose of the import restriction provisions in the
Gun Control Act of 1968, passed on the wave of public outrage that followed the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, was to keep such pistols out of the hands of criminals, delinquents and the mentally unstable by reducing the number available in this country.<<


I have heard the same verbiage again & again all my life(1968 - year of my birth) and it is a farce for a much deeper deletion of a basic freedom. I don't think the fight has ever ceased.

Argo44:

I heavily fancy the wedge analogy. Too, I've lifted your firearms merchant to carpet merchant comparision.......



Cheers,

Raimey
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Posted By: dal Re: Well done Virginia - 02/20/20 01:51 AM
Originally Posted By: craigd
Originally Posted By: dal
....But that does not mean what trump is doing is right either. Wrong is wrong, irregardless of the color of its stripes

Maybe so dal, but don’t you think some particulars are a good idea? Read cbacks earlier comment. Do you think you are basing you comment on skewed reporting up around your neck of the woods. Facts? Do you have them like black face pictures of your pm? Not too bad eh? Different standards? Maybe, but why’d you folks re-elect him, mindset, culture?


Not sure how many times I can say it, Trudeau sucks. But I hold ALL politicians to the same standard. But I guess thats a hard concept for some to understand.....
Posted By: Ted Schefelbein Re: Well done Virginia - 02/20/20 02:13 AM
Everyman needs a strong economy, period. He needs politicians who understand that fact.
A politician who doesn’t know how to do that, or, worse, ignores it, is of no use to most.
The prior president has had any legacy he thought would be granted to his memory, erased. Exactly as it should be.

Best,
Ted
Posted By: craigd Re: Well done Virginia - 02/20/20 02:46 AM
Originally Posted By: dal
Originally Posted By: craigd
Originally Posted By: dal
....But that does not mean what trump is doing is right either. Wrong is wrong, irregardless of the color of its stripes

Maybe so dal, but don’t you think some particulars are a good idea?....

Not sure how many times I can say it, Trudeau sucks. But I hold ALL politicians to the same standard. But I guess thats a hard concept for some to understand.....

So dal, which is it, he sucks because he's a racist protected by hypocrisy, or because of his policy? I guess it's a hard concept for some to understand, but what does wrong is wrong mean? Is it that the US President sucks, or he doesn't get the consideration as your brutal gangs of 'colour'?
Posted By: craigd Re: Well done Virginia - 02/20/20 02:50 AM
Originally Posted By: Stan
....My apologies for....causing the confusion.

I didn't notice this earlier, but from my point of view, it's not necessary Stan. Take care, Craig
Posted By: canvasback Re: Well done Virginia - 02/20/20 03:00 AM
Originally Posted By: dal

PS- I trully don't envy your position...vote in super left socialists, or continue to support a king...

Trudumb looks pretty good about now!



I think we have a case of the pot calling the kettle, although it's not really a kettle......it has nothing to do with stove tops.

Trudeau was anointed PM by a crowd who worshiped his father. The most divisive PM in our history. Until now. Trudeau Jr's virtue signalling and utter non performance in actually governing has brought on, since he was re-elected last fall a unity crisis, and now a national transportation and economic crisis.

Maybe you though no one would call you on the outrageous bullshit of pretending Trudeau is doing okay, at least better than Trump, because your audience here is mostly American and may not be up to speed with the doings of our very own Crisis King.

There is no world where Trudeau's performance over the last five years can be called anything but disastrous for Canada. It will take us decades to clean up his messes.

As I said in one of my earlier posts in this thread, the hypocrisy of the left always astounds me and Dal, pretending that Trump is even in the same room as Trudeau on the subject of nepotism and autocratic behavior, takes the cake. This is the guy who wished Canada was "more like China, where they can just get stuff done". Who paid off the 17 yo student he banged while a teacher with a $2.5 million NDA. The blackface guy. The Kokanee Groper. The man who destroyed the career of Admiral Norman, second in command of our armed forces because he was trying to make sure his buddies, the Irvings, got their contracts to fleece the taxpayer once again. Same with the whole SNC Lavalin affair.....I mean the list is freaking endless and you hold him up as some exemplar???? What's wrong with you?

Back on topic.....The Virginia success is just one battle of many that will have to be joined. We have a big one going on in Canada right now. They won't end. We just need to be smart and we need to be persistent.
Posted By: lonesome roads Re: Well done Virginia - 02/20/20 03:10 AM
Originally Posted By: canvasback
...Dal...What's wrong with you?


See page two, second post.


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Posted By: dal Re: Well done Virginia - 02/20/20 03:39 AM

So dal, which is it, he sucks because he's a racist protected by hypocrisy, or because of his policy?

Both.

I guess it's a hard concept for some to understand,...

Not for me. You?
Posted By: dal Re: Well done Virginia - 02/20/20 03:50 AM
There is no world where Trudeau's performance over the last five years can be called anything but disastrous for Canada. It will take us decades to clean up his messes. 

As I said in one of my earlier posts in this thread, the hypocrisy of the left always astounds me and Dal, pretending that Trump is even in the same room as Trudeau on the subject of nepotism and autocratic behavior, takes the cake. This is the guy who wished Canada was "more like China, where they can just get stuff done". Who paid off the 17 yo student he banged while a teacher with a $2.5 million NDA. The blackface guy. The Kokanee Groper. The man who destroyed the career of Admiral Norman, second in command of our armed forces because he was trying to make sure his buddies, the Irvings, got their contracts to fleece the taxpayer once again. Same with the whole SNC Lavalin affair.....I mean the list is freaking endless and you hold him up as some exemplar???? What's wrong with you?

I totally agree with your statement above...lol. Not quite sure where I wrote that I liked Trudeau?
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