Anyone have a clue what the psi would be on the Aguila 12ga 1 3/4 in MINISHELL? I have the 7 1/2 SHOT 1175 FPS.
Thank you,
Dale

how much shot? maybe 1/2 ounce or so?

5/8oz

These were discussed last year minishell. If someone found anything, they didn't report back.

Ken

Ship five off to Tom Armbrust for testing. Then, you'll know for sure. Precision Reloading does pressure testing too, but on reloads only, for some reason. They won't test factory loaded ammo.

SRH

Roughly 11K

Whoa...

They tested factory loads a couple of times for me a number of years ago. Does anyone know why they stopped?

[quote=RARiddell]Roughly 11K [/quote

Well I guess they would not be good for Damascus Guns then.

This is from the website

All Types of MINISHELLS are loaded to SAAMI specs according to 12ga shotshells of regular size, namely 2-3/4" or 3" in length. This means that regular shells and MINISHELLS generate the same pressure in the chamber of 12ga shotguns. MINISHELLS should NEVER be used in signal/flare guns or any other firearm other than 12ga caliber SAAMI approved shotguns. Failure to comply with this may result in injury or death to the user or others.

Weren't they designed as a defense load ?

They were, especially for law enforcement and military. People are finding other uses for them, the website and CS say pressures are roughly around 11k it would interesting to have them tested to know for sure.

I don’t have any guns I feel the need to run 11K through.

Best,
Ted

If you’re hunting in non-tox areas or are an avid waterfowler and can’t afford to pop a few hundred boutique non-tox loads per season...you most definitely will have the need. I routinely use shells that generate 1050 bar (@15k psi). No, not for vintage guns, but modern or modern’ish guns will chew those up and spit em out with ZERO issues, yep...even break action guns.

Federal is producing a shorty now. Don’t know the pressures...

Been using a boutique 16 load at my one and only non toxic area. 1 oz of Heavi-Metal at 1050fps.

The pumps and autos have been gathering dust for a few seasons. If I ever shot a 15K load, I didn’t know it. The old Federal Pheasants Forever load, 1 1/4 oz load at 1150fps was 10.5K, probably over the line in the Beretta I fed ‘em to, but, it didn’t see many in a season. The R10 wouldn’t care.

A lot of what I hunt with is CIP Okey-Dokey.


Best,
Ted

From Federal regarding their mini’s
We can load them up to that pressure, we typically see on average 9200-9500 fps when we do our testing.

excellent Thank you! Those short (1 .75")shells are running at 11,500 psi?

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Rick

SAAMI max is 11,500 psi, we are allowed to load up to this max pressure.


Thank You
Federal Ammunition
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I still can’t fathom why a guy with an old double would be interested in 5/8ths oz ammunition that is cooking along at 11.5K pressure.


Best,
Ted

Seems to me they would have to use a very fast powder with 5/8 oz of shot to get the pressure up to 11.5K psi. What would be the purpose of this high pressure with such a light load of shot? I would suppose it so they will "Kick" an Auto bot back, but as most autos, in use, today are gas-operated it seems to me a slower powder with a lower "Chamber" pressure would maintain a higher barrel pressure down where the gas port is.

As a dyed in the wool double shooter I see no advantage to a shell that short anyway. I did a search on the Federals & seems they only load them with a slug, buckshot & 15/16 oz of #8 shot. The slugs & buckshot I would guess are aimed at law enforcement, don't know who the # shot load is aimed at.

Inside the home self defense, would be my guess. Small shot are less able to penetrate multiple drywall layers and cause co-lateral damage.

SRH