Reloading truths learned the hard way. - 04/06/18 02:27 AM
Those here who reload might have learned many of the same truths I have. Over nearly 50 years of loading I have loaded on almost every type machine made with just a few exceptions. MEC 600, 650, 76, grabbers, 9000HN, Ponsness Warren 800 and 900, Pacific 366 and Spolar Gold. They all will load a nice shell, if you do your part. Owned both hydraulic and electric drive systems. Both work well and never seem to get tired.
Now for the truths I have learned over the years.
1.The more valuable the empty in cost, or having just a precious few on hand, the more likely one or more will get ruined in reloading. Split mouth, cocked wad, ruined rim, poor crimp. If you have a ton on hand they never seem to get ruined. Also a new shells will always get ruined more frequently than a twice fired hull.
2.Never trust a powder "chart" to tell you what weight of powder bushing or your machine is dropping. Buy a set of scales and use them. Also be aware that if your surface is not level your scales can be off. Flat is not enough.
3.Of all the re-loaders I have used or owned I find the Spolar Gold to be my favorite. A PW800 is a good machine as are the MEC loaders. I will never own another 900 PW. The 800 is a better machine in my experience. I just finished loading 24,000 shells, in four gauges on my Spolar and had less than a box of rejects in total. All my fault I am sure. Few bad crimps, bad or cocked wads, three I ran out of shot on, that type of rejects.
4.I save a little money on 12 gauge shells for basic clay target shooting. I save a lot on low pressure loads, so it does still pay to reload for the 12, for most of what I shoot.
5.Loading in 28 and .410 saves me so much money it is like shooting for half price. Plus a bag of shot seems to last forever.
6.Never watch the shot level when loading 12 gauge shells, it falls too fast. OK to watch it when loading .410, it seems to last for ever.
7.Loading in a unheated and non AC garage is much less fun than in the house.
8.Shot once spilled, will never be 100% picked up.
9.Never put powder in a reloader without placing a paper label in the powder container, on top of the powder, that tells you what type of powder it is. I can not tell you the number of partial bottles of powder I have not had to throw out, because I would have forgotten what it was and you can not tell with most of them what they are by just looking at them. If you take a bottle off a machine and store it you must have some way to figure out which type of powder it is. A small piece of paper tells you everything and it takes five seconds to make. I keep over a dozen types of powder on hand so there are too many choices to ever guess at. You know or you throw it out and $20 bucks a pound is too costly to waste.
10.If you have a hydraulic or electric drive on your loader you will load longer than if you have to pull the handle. It just never seems to get tired. You still will put off reloading if you can. But once you get started you can load a lot of shells.
11.When you have the chance to buy large numbers of basic components and have the money to buy them, you will never regret it. I bought enough shot to last for multiple years. My stock of Remington primers lasted five years. Wads are easy to find most times so I do not load up on them that much, maybe a case each of the basic ones. But when your favorite low pressure powder, like PB get discontinued, you are not crazy to buy 20+ pounds of it.
12.Never start reloading without checking everything. Check load required, check that the weight of powder being dropped is correct. I keep everything written down in a reloading journal that is specific for each gauge.
13.When in doubt about your loads send a sample out for pressure testing. It does not cost that much to be positive you are safe. Cost will be less than the deductible for your first physical therapy session if you get hurt because you screwed up loading. Fingers do not grow back.
14.When you load more than one load, in the same type shell, put a slip of paper with the basic information in every box. I print them on the computer so a page has about 40 copies of the information and cut them into small strips. Place it around the middle shell on the top of the box. From that I can tell you powder, weight, shot size, you name it. I laugh at people shaking shells,, next to their ear, to figure out what size shot is in them.
15.If you load for a new shooter, remember to load light loads to keep recoil down. The number of new shooter I see getting stomped by WallyWorld shells is sad. I have seen more than a few that were one and done. I often give them a box of my loads, if they will shoot another round. The look on their faces when the first shot does not stomp them is priceless.
16.Speaking of new shooters, give them a light 12, a light 20 or a 28 load. You can load a 3/4 ounce load in all three of them and they will hit just as many birds with that load that they will with full loads. The reduced recoil will make it much more pleasant for them.
17.If you like putting reloads in boxes, like I do, don't be ashamed to pick up free boxes at your club. Free is the best price you will get. I pass up free shells all the time but will take a dozen free boxes out of the trash when I can. I have several hundred empty boxes for 12 and 20's but never seem to have too many for 28 and .410.
18.Never reload with distractions. No TV, no beer and no smoking. I never will forget shooting the Great Eastern Skeet shoot with a fellow who was smoking his pipe, when a single spark from his pipe set off a 15 pound keg of Red Dot. His house was three doors down from the fire department, which was having a meeting at the time. They got there in less than three minutes he said. They were able to drag him out of the house but the house burned down to the ground. The amount of skin grafting he went through was scary. Not having a functioning eyelid on his left eye was worse I am sure.
19.Do not use old reloading information without checking if it is still valid. Powders have been changed over the years. When in doubt just pickup the phone and call Alliant or Hodgdon directly.
20.You can never have too many different choices in hulls, wads, powders, shot or primers. My inventory is larger or more choices than most gun shops around me and I always feel I need a little more stuff.
21.Never give reloading information from memory. Show them the information in writing. Show them the guide or show them it on line. Print it out for them.
22.If you get a call to help someone fix their relaoder, after you fix it for them take their wrenches and screwdrivers away from them. Some people should not be allowed to turn a wrench and these people will not leave it alone after you fix it for them. Once set up very few adjustments will ever be needed. They still wont leave them alone.
Please feel free to add your points as well. Maybe I forgot a few or never learned them in the first place.
Now for the truths I have learned over the years.
1.The more valuable the empty in cost, or having just a precious few on hand, the more likely one or more will get ruined in reloading. Split mouth, cocked wad, ruined rim, poor crimp. If you have a ton on hand they never seem to get ruined. Also a new shells will always get ruined more frequently than a twice fired hull.
2.Never trust a powder "chart" to tell you what weight of powder bushing or your machine is dropping. Buy a set of scales and use them. Also be aware that if your surface is not level your scales can be off. Flat is not enough.
3.Of all the re-loaders I have used or owned I find the Spolar Gold to be my favorite. A PW800 is a good machine as are the MEC loaders. I will never own another 900 PW. The 800 is a better machine in my experience. I just finished loading 24,000 shells, in four gauges on my Spolar and had less than a box of rejects in total. All my fault I am sure. Few bad crimps, bad or cocked wads, three I ran out of shot on, that type of rejects.
4.I save a little money on 12 gauge shells for basic clay target shooting. I save a lot on low pressure loads, so it does still pay to reload for the 12, for most of what I shoot.
5.Loading in 28 and .410 saves me so much money it is like shooting for half price. Plus a bag of shot seems to last forever.
6.Never watch the shot level when loading 12 gauge shells, it falls too fast. OK to watch it when loading .410, it seems to last for ever.
7.Loading in a unheated and non AC garage is much less fun than in the house.
8.Shot once spilled, will never be 100% picked up.
9.Never put powder in a reloader without placing a paper label in the powder container, on top of the powder, that tells you what type of powder it is. I can not tell you the number of partial bottles of powder I have not had to throw out, because I would have forgotten what it was and you can not tell with most of them what they are by just looking at them. If you take a bottle off a machine and store it you must have some way to figure out which type of powder it is. A small piece of paper tells you everything and it takes five seconds to make. I keep over a dozen types of powder on hand so there are too many choices to ever guess at. You know or you throw it out and $20 bucks a pound is too costly to waste.
10.If you have a hydraulic or electric drive on your loader you will load longer than if you have to pull the handle. It just never seems to get tired. You still will put off reloading if you can. But once you get started you can load a lot of shells.
11.When you have the chance to buy large numbers of basic components and have the money to buy them, you will never regret it. I bought enough shot to last for multiple years. My stock of Remington primers lasted five years. Wads are easy to find most times so I do not load up on them that much, maybe a case each of the basic ones. But when your favorite low pressure powder, like PB get discontinued, you are not crazy to buy 20+ pounds of it.
12.Never start reloading without checking everything. Check load required, check that the weight of powder being dropped is correct. I keep everything written down in a reloading journal that is specific for each gauge.
13.When in doubt about your loads send a sample out for pressure testing. It does not cost that much to be positive you are safe. Cost will be less than the deductible for your first physical therapy session if you get hurt because you screwed up loading. Fingers do not grow back.
14.When you load more than one load, in the same type shell, put a slip of paper with the basic information in every box. I print them on the computer so a page has about 40 copies of the information and cut them into small strips. Place it around the middle shell on the top of the box. From that I can tell you powder, weight, shot size, you name it. I laugh at people shaking shells,, next to their ear, to figure out what size shot is in them.
15.If you load for a new shooter, remember to load light loads to keep recoil down. The number of new shooter I see getting stomped by WallyWorld shells is sad. I have seen more than a few that were one and done. I often give them a box of my loads, if they will shoot another round. The look on their faces when the first shot does not stomp them is priceless.
16.Speaking of new shooters, give them a light 12, a light 20 or a 28 load. You can load a 3/4 ounce load in all three of them and they will hit just as many birds with that load that they will with full loads. The reduced recoil will make it much more pleasant for them.
17.If you like putting reloads in boxes, like I do, don't be ashamed to pick up free boxes at your club. Free is the best price you will get. I pass up free shells all the time but will take a dozen free boxes out of the trash when I can. I have several hundred empty boxes for 12 and 20's but never seem to have too many for 28 and .410.
18.Never reload with distractions. No TV, no beer and no smoking. I never will forget shooting the Great Eastern Skeet shoot with a fellow who was smoking his pipe, when a single spark from his pipe set off a 15 pound keg of Red Dot. His house was three doors down from the fire department, which was having a meeting at the time. They got there in less than three minutes he said. They were able to drag him out of the house but the house burned down to the ground. The amount of skin grafting he went through was scary. Not having a functioning eyelid on his left eye was worse I am sure.
19.Do not use old reloading information without checking if it is still valid. Powders have been changed over the years. When in doubt just pickup the phone and call Alliant or Hodgdon directly.
20.You can never have too many different choices in hulls, wads, powders, shot or primers. My inventory is larger or more choices than most gun shops around me and I always feel I need a little more stuff.
21.Never give reloading information from memory. Show them the information in writing. Show them the guide or show them it on line. Print it out for them.
22.If you get a call to help someone fix their relaoder, after you fix it for them take their wrenches and screwdrivers away from them. Some people should not be allowed to turn a wrench and these people will not leave it alone after you fix it for them. Once set up very few adjustments will ever be needed. They still wont leave them alone.
Please feel free to add your points as well. Maybe I forgot a few or never learned them in the first place.