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Posted By: ChessieDog Spanish Noble? - 12/25/13 06:17 AM
Stumbled across this on a local posting. Not much info and was wondering if anyone could clue me in on the thing.
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Lance

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Posted By: Researcher Re: Spanish Noble? - 12/25/13 06:55 AM
Noble Manufacturing Co., located in Haydenville, MA, 1953 to 1971 manufactured a line of cheap pump shotguns, boltand pump .22s and also imported cheap Spanish doubles under their name.
Posted By: geauga Re: Spanish Noble? - 12/27/13 11:58 PM
I have a 20 ga. Noble that belonged to my Dad's best friend who had a heart attack and passed away while I was hunting with him and my son. I now own that gun for sentimental reasons. It does shoot well and I use it as my bad weather gun. I have to admit it has the absolutely worst engraving I have ever seen!! Geauga
Posted By: Chuck H Re: Spanish Noble? - 12/28/13 11:13 AM
I think it looks much like this J. Sarasqueta boxlock.

http://www.gunsinternational.com/J-Sarasqueta-12-ga-BLNE.cfm?gun_id=100339667
Posted By: L. Brown Re: Spanish Noble? - 12/28/13 01:02 PM
From the original poster's link, I'd guess that's the higher grade Noble: 450E, with ejectors. Hard telling who made it. When Noble was importing Spanish guns, there were still a lot of small makers, most of whom have since gone out of business.
Posted By: Chuck H Re: Spanish Noble? - 12/28/13 02:35 PM
Larry
Was the Eibar gun industry similar to the English in the way they sourced portions of guns?

For example, I've seen that same style of bar step shaping on a few other brands of Spanish boxlocks.
Posted By: Kyrie Re: Spanish Noble? - 12/28/13 04:12 PM
Originally Posted By: Chuck H
Larry
Was the Eibar gun industry similar to the English in the way they sourced portions of guns?

For example, I've seen that same style of bar step shaping on a few other brands of Spanish boxlocks.


Was, and mostly still is. Makers buy parts on the open market from the Mom & Pop shops that specialize in whatever the part is, and then assemble guns from the parts. I think, at this moment in time, there are only two barrel makers in all of Spain. That's with the possible exception of AyA, which is trying to source its own parts.
Posted By: L. Brown Re: Spanish Noble? - 12/29/13 02:45 PM
In addition to what Kyrie said: The Spanish gun industry prior to the 1980's was quite a bit like the British (or Belgian) trade prior to WWI. Lots of small "makers" out there, with a lot of specialization among outworkers in the trade. But when it comes to putting one's name on the finished gun . . . same story in all those cases. We only see a few names on guns from each of those countries today. Sadly so.
Posted By: Jack K Re: Spanish Noble? - 12/29/13 07:21 PM
I have a Noble model 420, 16 gauge extractor gun, the maker was J.C.M. I bought it used about 20 years ago for under $150.- and have put over 5,000 shells through it. It is still tight and hits where I point it. The only things I've had done to it were to make the safety non-automatic and have the chokes opened. I think it is a good rainy day gun.

Jack K
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