Hello all. I just bought an NID model Ithaca online. I haven't received it yet but it struck me a little strange that this gun has a rounded pistol grip and Fleur d lis checkering pattern. The owner said it was an all original field grade gun but I haven't seen any pics of an NID with this style stock. They all seem to have either a flat knob or a black plastic grip cap. What do you guys think?
http://www.gunsinternational.com/ITHACA-NID-12GA-DOUBLE-BARREL.cfm?gun_id=100099317
Replacement. Wrong finish and the wood doesn't look like anything i've seen on an Ithaca. Yours is an early gun which disallows that it was a put together with leftover parts like some of the post war guns.
Half-pistol grips are pretty scarce on Ithacas by the NID period, but here is a November 1933 Grade 4E 20-gauge with a half-pistol grip --
Being from California I pretty much have to buy from the few dealers who will ship here so I almost plan on paying more for a gun than it's really worth.
I did when I bought my Flues and I'll probably do it again when a decent Lewis or Crass turns up. I didn't buy the gun as an investment or anything but just out of curiosity, if it turns out to be a replacement stock how big of a ding will that put in the value of the gun?
THE PICTURES AREN'T VERY GOOD, BUT EVEN IF THE STOCK IS A REPLACEMENT WITH THE WORK DONE WELL THAT IS NOT A BAD PRICE AT 595. Especially if thats original blue on there? It could be a glitch in the pictures somehow but it looks a bit like the stock does not match up with the frame. If this is inaccurate and all is solid I wouldn't give the price another thought. I don't know what California FFLs charge for transfers and such?
Sorry my caplock was on and I hunt and peck.
Although, a later NID ('39), this is a correct stock sans replacement pad.
We don't want to ever say "never" with these old guns. Ithaca would build what the customer wanted. These are Lon. B. Smith's trap guns --
The "normal" stock on the early NID Field Grades was much thinner through the grip the the stocks on the late 1930s Field Grades that JMC is showing.
FYI in my area (Orange County and Eastern LA County) of CA, FFL dealers charge from $65 to $125 to "recieve" a gun--ANY gun or reciever, even a "parts gun"--from out of state or from another FFL instate. This includes the state Department of Justice "DROS" fee (basically a background check, and, I assume, a check of national databases for warrants and stolen guns) of $25. Add the more or less reasonable shipping fee to that, and it's a fairly heavy load.
That is one reason why you won't see a lot of more inexpensive and "fixer upper" guns ordered from out-of-state dealers or individuals by CA members, IMO. Long guns that can be PROVEN to be C&R qualified, can be transferred between two instate owners on a cash and carry basis, like furniture. This gets tricky with cheaper guns that have no SN--how do you PROVE DOM? Fortunately the state is too "poor" to check this stuff, but don't bet on it if you have a traffic accident with such a gun in the trunk....
My local dealer charges me $50 to receive a gun and then the $25 DROS fee.
The fellow I bought the gun from shipped it today so hopefully it'll be here by friday or early next week.
I've had my flues apart a few times but never noticed if they stamped the ser # on the rear stock. I know they stamped the fore end. It took a few tries but my flues is nice and tight so I don't want to open it up and look so, do they stamp the rear and if so where is the most common spot? Under the butt plate or trigger guard?
Transfer prices are all over the board around here (east side of Los Angeles County), complicated by the fact that some FFL's won't do any transfer from out of state. Some won't do a transfer on a gun that they did not sell you. Some have raised the transfer fee to a level that makes it impractical to transfer anything less than a very fine (i.e., expensive) gun. And some who will actually transfer an out of state gun for a reasonable fee now insist on charging you sales tax on your out of state purchase. That tax is 9.75% where I live, and 10.75% where my favorite gunsmith operates. The best deal I have found locally is $135 to transfer a long gun from out of CA, no sales tax. Add another gun from the same state to that ticket and it's "only" another $55, each. Add a gun from another state on the same ticket and it's "only" another $85, each. I can get the transfers done for less on the other side of town, but that's a three hour round trip to start the paperwork, and another three hour round trip to pick up the gun after the ten day waiting period, with time being money. If you are concerned about examining the new purchase within the three day inspection period, you have to plan well in advance to go look at the gun because on some days you just can't get there from here.
FYI in my area (Orange County and Eastern LA County) of CA, FFL dealers charge from $65 to $125 to "recieve" a gun--ANY gun or reciever, even a "parts gun"--from out of state or from another FFL instate. This includes the state Department of Justice "DROS" fee (basically a background check, and, I assume, a check of national databases for warrants and stolen guns) of $25. Add the more or less reasonable shipping fee to that, and it's a fairly heavy load.
That is one reason why you won't see a lot of more inexpensive and "fixer upper" guns ordered from out-of-state dealers or individuals by CA members, IMO. Long guns that can be PROVEN to be C&R qualified, can be transferred between two instate owners on a cash and carry basis, like furniture. This gets tricky with cheaper guns that have no SN--how do you PROVE DOM? Fortunately the state is too "poor" to check this stuff, but don't bet on it if you have a traffic accident with such a gun in the trunk....
Man, I am thankful I don't live there! Mike, you have my sympathies. If I had a traffic accident with a shotgun in the truck no one would even notice, or if they did they'd ask what I was hunting this time of year.