Some may have seen this before so I apologize if it is old.....

THREAT; Doctors vs. Gun Owners

Doctors

(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.

(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians

per year are 120,000. (Source; Leapfrog)

(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of
Health and Human Services.

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Now think about this:

Guns

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is

80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million)

(B) The number of accidental gun deaths

per year, all age groups, is 1,500.

(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner

is 0.000188

Statistics courtesy of FBI.


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So, statistically, doctors are approximately

9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

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Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'

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FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT...

Almost everyone has at least one doctor.

This means you are over 900 times more likely to be killed by a doctor as a gun owner!

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Please alert your friends to this alarming threat.

We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!

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Might be something in that. Britain's biggest mass murderer was Doctor Harold Shipman with a score of over 200. Lagopus.....

That's why we need to make it illegal for doctors to own guns. Can you just imagine the statistics?

Which only proves the absurdity to which statistics can be used!

Lagopus, I covered the sensational trial of Shipman's role model at the Old Bailey in 1957.

Show that to your physician next time you go for a check-up. I'm sure he'll think it's real funny.........

Greg, Shipman did it with hypodermic and still they allow Doctors here to own one. One man goes crazy with a handgun in Scotland and we all had to hand them in; well, only we law abiding sorts who owned them legally on certificate of course. Lagopus.....

Our family doctor has been toeing the AMA line of asking if there are guns kept in the house. I tell him the place is littered with guns, and to come on over if he'd like to learn to shoot.

Best,
Ted

On occasion I shoot skeet with the doctor who delivered me so I'm really rolling the dice with him.

Statistics,in the hands of irresponsible people,can be just as dangerous as guns. The next time you need medical assistance why don't you just shoot yourself in the ass. Justin

This has been around at least 3 years.
Lots of my colleagues have quit the practice of medicine, and the adversarial atmosphere today, and bs like this, is much of the reason.
Your next "provider" is not going to be a U.S. trained M.D. or D.O. Good luck.
Please explain the relevance of your post to this forum, and why random insults directed toward contributors here are acceptable.

Doc's must be a bunch of sissies to get upset over this little bit of teasing. The only ones I see quitting around here are the ones who're about to turn 40 and have already accumulated $10,000,000 in their retirement accounts.

Try putting up with lawyer jokes! They usually involve skid marks or something...Geo

I would rather hunt with a fellow Dr. than a Vice President.

Speaking for the legal profession in general, if I were hunting in the presence of THAT Vice President, I'd kind of like to have a Dr. around too...Geo

doubble, I thought it was so funny that it left me in stitches...

tim

Actually, your next doctor will not be American because the sad fact is an Indian doctor will work for much less. Just like brick laying or machining, the doctoring trade ain't what it used to be.

I don't feel especially sorry for the American doctor or the American patient. Why? Every American doctor and every American patient buys plenty of Chinese and Indian made crap every day - if we can export our jobs I don't see why we shouldn't import our doctors.

Drew,
With all due respect, what difference should it make to my Chicago born/raised/trained family MD if I keep guns in my home? And why can't he think for himself instead of putting forth questions from the AMA, an organization that makes no bones about the fact that they don't like even your guns?
He directed this question to my wife (what the hell would she know about what guns are kept in the home?) at which point I set him straight. If there was any BS in the conversation, it came from him, as I asked him point blank what he knew about guns and his reply was he knew they are dangerous.
The fact the conversation took place during a clinic visit instigated by his office to inform us they had screwed up the storage requirements of the vaccinations they had administered to my infant son, and needed to re-vaccinate him, was the icing on the cake. I can't tell you how thrilled I was to have more thimerosal coursing the lads veins, compliments of his clinic. The quality of my "providers' has been slipping for a number of years, additionally, many of them seem to have become no more than salesman for the phamaceuticals, with little interest in spending more than 5 minutes per visit with us, always, ALWAYS suggesting a perscription of some sort instead of trying to figure out what might be the actual cause of what is ailing us. This particular clown overslept the night my son was being delivered, but managed to get into the room in time to take over for the nurse on duty, just in time to see the boys knees being born.
I should have asked for a discount, and given it to her. Actually, I should have knocked him on his ass. I was beyond furious on what could have been the happiest day of my life.
I stay as far from the doctor as I can, and will probably rue that fact some day, but the truth simply is, I don't know a good one. I wish I did.
Yes, I'm looking for a new one, but my wife appreciates the fact he can utter some Spanish. I've had it with this clinic, the Doctors who populate it, and the whole medical profession in general.

I'm not alone, it would seem.





Best,
Ted

Lets be honest. This post has really gone off base. It started as a post of a Dr joke which is at least 5 years old. Not so funny any more, but who cares. There are physicians like myself who hunt, own guns, and are as " real American' as anybody else on this forum- 15 years active duty Army and 20 years in the reserve. I haven't worked a 40 hour work week in 35 years. More like 60 and during residency more like 160. I spent 15 years after High School in training to do what I do. Those years were spent earning less per hour than the average reader of this forum makes. I work my butt off everyday hoping to save a few folks from dieing prematurley from a disease I hope I can prevent and to relieve those suffering from current conditions that I can treat.
To link every physician or any other catagory of worker in the US to a mold based on your personal experience is wrong. Personally, I beleieve our medical care systen is so messed up because free enterprise allows them to bill for what the patient wants, not what they need.
However, I am open to any and all "Doctor jokes" and hope to hear them all

Rash generalizations seem to be causing a big stir here. The sad fact is, the medical profession is really no different than any other profession in that it is populated with a wide range of people of different skills and ability.

My last family doctor (internist) was as competent as any I've met and was a hunter and shooter as well. Sadly, he retired and my current doctor seems to under-diagnose and over-prescribe and would keep me coming back for eternity if I did not just cancel appointments after I am well. He seems to have to refer me to a specialist for everything no matter how simple, but his charges are the same whether he can fix me or not. Of course, I am shopping for a new family physician.

I have seen this same sort of thing in my own profession (electrician) and every other profession I can think of. We all know that some electricians are incompetent, some teachers can't teach, and some auto mechanics screw up more than they fix. Some can do more serious and lasting damage than others.

All, whether Doctor, Lawyer, Electrician, Mechanic, Teacher, etc. expect payment for their services and time, and this can be vexing when the services rendered are sub-standard. It is just as vexing when the bad apples make the good ones look bad too.

I think the information that initiated this thread will likely continue to surface so long as the AMA continues to villify inanimate objects that are misused by criminals and nut cases. It's sad that good, competent, hunting-shooting-gun owning Doctors, Lawyers, Teachers, and Policeman get dragged into these frays when they are deemed associated with National organizations that are anti-Second Amendment.

I blame it all on the politicians who aren't bright enough to sort it out.

This is a good place to encourage membership in the NRA as our most effective means of countering all of the various anti-gun, anti-hunting groups.

Dr. Bob, I am trying like hell to think of a good Doctor joke, but am drawing a blank just now.

I'll tell you one:

"A man comes to the doctor with a prostate problem. He asks the doctor that, when he does his prostate exam to stick two fingers in instead of one. When the puzzled doctor asks why, the patient answered candidly:
I want a second opinion!"

Meant to be a bit of humor, but if it put yer panties in a wad...that's your issue, with all respect of course...

I hunt with 2 MDs and a DO, all three are great in their proffessions and hobbies. Also hunt with a RT as I have COPD, gotta cover the bases. Anyway the supposed satistics are at least 6 yrs. old I agree whole heartly with Dr.Bob and Drew House, but also agree with Ted, it is not the Medical Professions bussiness how many firearms I own or have in my house. Any Dr. asking me that is going to hear it loud and clear from an old Law Enforcement Officer and Army Sgt.

Do you "peons" sign your doublegun posts with "Mr." in front of your name? Of course not.
I was an investment officer for years. We had an "inhouse" saying: "When the doctors get in, it is time for the smart money to get out."
I don't give a rat's a-- whether a man is a doc or not on a gun forum..... He's just another clod looking for a gun or a target - same as the rest of us. When his username contains "Dr." or he signs his posts with "Dr.", all I see is an ego attempting to distinguish himself/herself from the rest of us.
As for individual docs personally, I have had good friendships with many who were great guys.
Reb

Rebel Sympathy

If an ego is all you see when "Dr." is part of their tag, then perhaps you need to look at yourself. I don't know Dr. Bob but I have read numerous posts from him. I have not picked up on any arrogance in his replies. As for the other individual in this thread who identifies himself as a doctor, Drew Hause, your comment is way off base. Myself and I'm certain countless others have been helped from the advice and information that he has contributed over the time that this forum has been in place.

Marcus Retallack

Well, Dr. Bob asked for doc jokes, so here's one that killed when I used it at a nursing conference. I was a speaker, along with our Chief Medical Officer who was standing next to me at the time and complaining about administration:

"One of our obstetricians is so dumb that he thinks Caesarean section is a residential district in Rome."

The nurses loved it. The doc quit complaining about my side of the house.

Perhaps the experts on the forunm can help me here.
A fellow today stated " I have a BM regularly at 7 AM every day" I asked " Whats wrong with that?".
He said" Well, I don't get up until 8 AM".

I figured I could get the answer here.

Uh, I really like the guy I go to, he's a good guy and really cares about what he does, and the people that come to see him. I'll be up a creek trying to find his replacement, should that day come.

I really like the doctor I go to, too---a woman.

A patient in for a brain transplant was offered a choice by the surgeon. He could choose either the Architect's brain which would cost him $100,000 or the Politician's which was $1,000,000.

"What's the difference?" asked the puzzled patient.

"Well," said the Doc, "the Architects is well used but has some good years left on it, ........ now on the other hand the Pol's is in almost new condition, never really having been used."

This old guy goes to the doctor for his checkup. He's hard of hearing so he takes his wife along. The doctor looks him over then tells him, "Mr. Johnson, I'm going to need a urine sample, a blood sample, a stool sample, and a semen sample."

The old guy turns to his wife and asks, "What did he say?"

The wife yells back, "He said give him your underwear!"

Well that tears it for me! If it's an ego thing then I want in. From now on it's DR Wonko the Sane to you people. I want some respect!

DR WtS

Hey, Dr. WonkotS, Are you a shrink?

Respectfully, Dean

This came to me in my email the other day, I thought I'd share...
Steve

EMBARRASSING MEDICAL EXAMS

1. A man comes into the ER and yells . .
.'My wife's going to have her baby in the cab.'
I grabbed my stuff, rushed out to the cab, lifted the lady's
dress and began to take off her underwear.
Suddenly I noticed that there were several cabs - - -
and I was in the wrong one.

Submitted by Dr. Mark MacDonald,
San Francisco

2.At the beginning of my shift
I placed a stethoscope on an elderly
and slightly deaf female patient's anterior chest wall.
'Big breaths,'. .. . I
instructed.
'Yes, they used to be,'. . .replied the patient.

Submitted by Dr. Richard Byrnes,
Seattle , WA

3. One day I had to be the bearer of bad
news when I told a wife that her husband had
died of a massive myocardial infarct.
Not more than five minutes later, I heard her
reporting to the rest of the family that he had
died of a 'massive internal fart.'

Submitted by Dr. Susan Steinberg

4. During a patient's two week follow-up
appointment with his cardiologist, he informed
me, his doctor, that he was having trouble with
one of his medications. .
‘Which one?'. ... . I asked. 'The patch...
The Nurse told me to put on a new one every six hours
and now I'm running out of places to put it !'
I had him quickly undress and discovered what I hoped
I wouldn't see.
Yes, the man had over fifty patches on his body!
Now, the instructions include removal of
the old patch before applying a new one.

Submitted by Dr. Rebecca St. Clair,
Norfolk , VA

5. While acquainting myself with a new elderly patient,
I asked, 'How long have you been bedridden?'
After a look of complete confusion she answered . . .
' Why, not for about twenty years - when my husband was alive.'

Submitted by Dr. Steven Swanson-
Corvallis, OR

6. I was performing rounds at the
hospital one morning and while checking
up on a man I asked . . .' So how's your
breakfast this morning?' ‘It’s very good
except for the Kentucky Jelly. I can't seem
to get used to the taste.'. . . Bob replied.
I then asked to see the jelly and Bob produced
a foil packet labeled 'KY Jelly.'

Submitted by Dr. Leonard Kransdorf,
Detroit ,

7. A nurse was on duty in the Emergency Room
when a young woman with purple hair styled
into a
punk rocker Mohawk, sporting a variety
of tattoos, and wearing strange clothing,
entered ... .... . It was quickly determined that
the patient had acute appendicitis, so she was
scheduled for immediate surgery.. When she was completely disrobed on the operating
table, the staff noticed that her pubic hair had
been dyed green and above it there was a
tattoo that read .. . .' Keep off the grass.'

Once the surgery was completed, the surgeon
wrote a short note on the patient's dressing,
which said ‘Sorry. .... . had to mow the lawn.'

Submitted by RN no name

AND FINALLY!! ! . . . . ... . . . . . . . . . .

8... As a new, young MD
doing his residency in OB.
I was quite embarrassed when performing female
pelvic exams... To cover my embarrassment
I had unconsciously formed a habit of whistling softly.

The middle-aged lady upon whom I was performing this exam suddenly burst out laughing
and further embarrassing me.
I looked up from my work and sheepishly said
'I'm sorry. Was I tickling you?'
She replied with tears running down
her cheeks from laughing so hard . . .

'No doctor but the song you were whistling was . . .
'I wish I was an Oscar Meyer
Wiener.' '

Dr. wouldn't submit his name…

Actually, I studied with Professor Irwin Corey, The World's Foremost Authority, and am a recognized Certified Authority - obviously now that is Dr of Certified Authority.

HTH

Dr WtS

How coincidental... I studied under Foster Brooks

I don't think the original post was meant to be a knock on Drs... Just a point of absurdity about gun control and the "danger of Guns".

When I worked as kid going through college at the local sporting goods store whenever some backpacking hippie would freak out the same time a gun was being rung up at the register, I used to tell them I was that way whenever I got near a car. That always brought a inquisitive response, why.

I returned, I have friends that have been killed in cars, but none killed by a gun.....
At least it made them stop and think about it.

Jerry

..and now for the fun..
You heard about the absent minded proctologist. He always carried around a pen and a rectal thermometer in his shirt pocket. One day he went to write a prescription and whipped out the thermometer, realizing it wouldn't write he said, "Dammit, some A__hole has my pen".


Jerry

About a week after examining his elderly and somewhat deaf patient, a Doctor saw the old geezer grinning ear to ear and walking down the street arm in arm with a very sexy young babe.

The shocked Doc collared the guy and took him aside and asked him what the hell he was doing.

The old skeetshooter replied that he was merely "following your advice... get a hot mama and be cheerful!"

"No, no, no," said the Doc, "I said you've got a heart murmur; be careful."

I'm a primary care Physician Assistant working in rural and emergency medicine for 22 years. So, no doctor with my name, and no plush retirement account either. As a gun owner, hunter, and avid outdoorsman, I still advocate for guns to be stored properly. That entails asking if there are guns in the house. I ask the question with respect, explain why I am asking, and have yet to be misunderstood.

The intent of asking about guns, is to recommend safe storage and handling. It is the same as asking if the crib is of modern manufacture, the house has smoke alarms, and is the hot water heater set low enough for children.

Unfortunately, the counseling rarely gets done. I believe most electronic medical records are set up to record how much history is obtained, and points are given for questions asked. The more points that are accrued, the higher the rate of billing. I see it as another trend in medicine that we have check lists to follow. I suspect the questioning is often done in the wrong fashion, and not with the intent to give valid recommendations for storage. I doubt any of my fellow providers in our clinic even have rudimentary knowlege of gun handling/storage.

Don't take it out on the well-intentioned provider who asks the question, instead play along, ("sure I have a bb gun in the house,") and see if they follow up. If they offer a sincere and considerate recommendation for appropriate storage and move along, have no concerns. If they breeze right by it, rest assured your bill just went up, and your provider is missing the whole point of the question.

By the way, I love the jokes, none of mine are remotely appropriate or I would join in.

Rob.

Thank you!

Actually, I would find a doctor or any other medical person advising me on gun storage to be a little off his rocker. Kinda like if he offered to cut my steak in small bites for me.

Drew,
I'm sure this original post was meant to compare one absurdity to another, showing the absurdity of both.

Steve,
Funny, funny stuff. I was rollin.

Thanks Chuck.

I like doctors...really I do. I've been around them since I was born.

A country gal showed up in the Doc's exam room complaining of mild persistent abdominal pain. He examined her and said "Take a urine sample first thing in the morning and bring it to me."

The next morning she showed up with two black eyes and an arm in a sling and limping. The Doc wants to know what happened.

"Well, to be honest I didn't know what a urine sample was and I was too embarassed to show my ignorance to you. So on the way home I remembered that the lady on the next farm grew up in the city. Since I go by her house on the way to mine I decided to stop and ask. So I did and she told me to go piss in a bottle and I told her to shit in her bonnet and one word led to another."

I'm 55 and there is no doubt in my mind that all the doctors that I went to were smarter, worked harder, and were more conscientious than I was. As a matter of fact I wouldn't go to a doctor as dumb or lazy or careless as me. When I screw up there is just raw sewage on the floor or someone's office is hot.

Best,

Mike

eighty million that's all???
There's probably 80 milliom guns just in Pennsylvania!!

Rob, if my doctor began asking about my smoke alarms, baby crib or hot water heater I would immediately have doubts about his mental state. If the baby came in with cuts and scrapes, or the patient had hot water burns on one foot where he stepped into the tub it would be different. Maybe in WA the populace is accepting of that type of nosiness, but not around heah.

I recently saw my Doc due to a severe digestive tract problem. He prescribed me belladonna/phenobarbitol tablets. I remarked that he had to get me straightened out quickly as I had to leave to go shoot the U.S. Open in a few days. He replied sternly that if I wasn't much better in two days to call him back! Good doctor and a good friend.

LOL...you got THAT right! Half of those, at least, are in western PA!

So... are you and other doctors asking about cribs, smoke alarms, and hot water tank settings... or just about the presence of guns?

While I always stored my guns empty and securely when my kids were small, I recognized the fact that eventually I might slip up and leave one out. I also realized that with over 80 million guns here in Pennsylvania, there was a very good possibility they might encounter a gun at the home of a Grandparent, Uncle, friend, etc.

So the better path was to train them from an early age. I would intentionally leave an unloaded revolver or long gun on the bed, for example, and send one of the kids into the bedroom to get my slippers. I would have them in full sight so I could gauge their reaction. They had been taught over and over that if they ever found a gun, or if one of their cousins or friends found a gun, that they should immediately run and tell an adult.

My kids always did exactly as they were told, and I praised and rewarded them with a trip to McDonalds, or Dairy Queen, or whatever they wanted. This reinforced the training, and they would never even hesitate to run and tell me about the gun that I intentionally left layin out.

Finally, as soon as possible, I taught them about guns and allowed them to shoot. I explained that they never needed to sneak a peek, but merely ask, and I would take them shooting. This stops the "forbidden fruit" type curiousity.

I feel the AMA approach will merely lead to more kids being insulated from reality, and then when they do encounter a gun, curiosity will lead them to touch, examine, and otherwise play with it with possible tragic results. My Doctors' questions may prompt ME to lock up my guns, but what about the other 79.99 million in my county alone?

How do you distinguish between an oral and rectal thermometer?










THE TASTE!

There are two different kinds of thermometers?

Doctor and Lawyer were walking down the street. Doctor sees a stunning lady with a figure to make you drool. Tells his lawyer buddy he would like to "screw that lady". Lawyer looks at her and then him and ask him "screw her out of what?".

They are distinctly different...see the post above.

I have no intent to tote some AMA partyline and debate it here with anyone. Those who offered up their solutions to gun safety, my hat is off to you. I truly wish everyone who was a gun owner was conscientous and responsible. Teaching safe handling and responsibility is by far the most prudent approach.

Please understand that I was offering up an explanation of how industrial medicine works. When the rubber meets the road in the confidentiality of the office, I hope every provider has the capacity to gauge which questions are appropriate and where counseling is needed.

I see many new parents still in their teens who come from generations of poverty and low socio-economic status. I suppose some of you have intimate knowlege of how tough that is, although the nature of this board is as far from their world as can be in our country. To not educate them on potential hazards is negligence, including crib safety and water temperature. To be sure, they need to be receptive and want the information. That is the art of medicine. I'm sorry some of you cannot grasp that prevention is worth a ton of cure. I am equally sorry that some providers cannot see that asking you about gun ownership is silly.

I have seen several children shot from negligent storage and handling. How many of you is it ok to offend to avoid that tragedy? What is the price tag we want to place on this? Who should make the effort to avoid it? Those who have held a dead child and heard the anguish of grieving Mother can get on the pedestal and preach to me about propriety, the rest of you can take your thin self righteous skin and bugger off.

Rob

Stop the doctor bashing. If it weren't for the wonderful doctors who have treated me, I'd have been dead four years ago. You want to bash somebody, bash the politicians who have sold our country down the river to maintain their power bases -- and that includes just about all of them. Chopper

DrBob,

The three MOST DANGEROUS THINGS IN AVIATION:

1. A Doctor in a Beechcraft Bonanza or a Cirrus...(a.k.a. fork tailed Dr. Killer)..........

2. Two high school drop outs in a fuel truck...(also two ________ in a fuel truck)...........

3. A stewardess with a chipped tooth..........


Happy New Year............

I had a guy with constipation come in the other day. He was told to take 2 Fleet's Enemas for his exam.
He told me " they taste like sh*t and the straw is all covered with grease".

Well said, Dr. Bob. My favorite duck hunting partner is also my primary physician, Dr. Domineco. His grandfather was a master engraver for Beretta, in Gardone Val Trompia, Italy and when Mussolini and Hitler formed their "Pact of Steel" he left for America and became a US citizen, worked as a tool maker in a defense plant during WW11- I have seen and shot several of his Beretta handguns and shotguns- My friend also has been decorated by the USN Blue Angels (He flies a Beechcraft however) and is an avid homing pigeon racer. He knows of my love of fine guns, also that I shoot barn (feral) pigeons in the off hunting season- and is open minded. His daughter is attending Julliard, studying piano, and we both love classic music as well as hunting. A very open minded and well-rounded man, IMO. My cardiologist, Dr. Tjender, is from India- speaks 6 languages fluently and goes out of his way to make all his patients feel at ease, again, IMO. My Dentist, Dr. Mallick, shoots a Beretta 28 gauge, and asked me to help him find and then sight in a BA scoped rifle for his MT. elk hunt. Super great guy. Doctors hold human life and trust of their patients in their hands, as you said, don't work a straight 40 hour week, and sure- there are Doctor jokes, just like their are lawyer and plumber jokes- No big deal!!

See what happens when you take away ethic humor - now we have doctor and lawyer jokes instead.

I'm holding out for the lack of ethnic humor-- back when I was in Military Service, and my surname had a Slavic "Ski" attached, the infamous "Pollock" jokes were goin' around. I had just made E-4, and was in the NCO duty hut and some of those were being discussed- a big E-5, named Wadislawski- the strong silent type (built like Dick Butkis of the Bears) was listening,and then he said- "Hey, I got one for you guys- What's black and blue, lays on the deck and don't hardly move?"-- We all gave up- his answer- "The next SOB that tells a Pollock joke when I'm around to hear it"- Dead Bang quiet-- ethnic jokes are like ethnic "cleansing", not funny- Jokes about Doctors, various specie of thermometers and private body parts and functions- belong in movies like Animal House perhaps--or National Lampoon- you chuckle, but then move on--

I'm a martinet. My family understands there that there are no ethnic jokes in my presence. Like teasing, ethnic jokes are often tinged with cruelty.

My rule isn't because of personal experience but of fairness, of not attaching opprobrium to descendants.

Moreover, I've found aspersions of particular character weakness to be wrong; Irish, French, Italians and East Europeans seem good stuff to me.

I'll drink to that, and also with any and all you have listed- America, and Canada- great melting pots from European roots and heritage indeed.

some of my best friends are doctors

My doctor is great, and my dentist hunts. This all started as a joke. After the military, and 35 years working in the shop for the one of the "big three" I learned real quick one better have a thick skin. Jokes about any and everything were fair game and if someone found out something bothered you, that's all you would hear. Some of us need to " lighten up " - it takes fewer muscles to smile than to frown. Happy New Year to all, and to all a good night.

I thought it took 45 muscles to smile but only three to pull the trigger on a well tuned sniper rifle!!!

I spoke with a Doctor friend from Kalifornia over the holidays. In addition to his regular practice, he does some Home Health and Hospice type visits. He told me he was looking into the provisions of ObamaCare and found some disturbing things. Among others, he said that he could spend 20 to 30 minutes driving one way to visit a patient, spend another 20 to 30 minutes examining, treating, and prescribing, then drive another 20 to 30 minutes on the return trip, and his reimbursement under ObamaCare would be less than $5.00. He said there is no way he could continue to do that work.

An illegal immigrant bean-picker wouldn't do that for less than $5.00. Sounds like the Doctor joke might be on us after 2014.

Don't blame me, I voted for Romney.