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Why have and does the gun community insist on saying "Aya" for AyA, which is the abbreviation for Aguirre and Aranzabal? Some even go so far as to say "A Y A". Huh?
JR

It actually would be >>Ah e Ah<<

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

English abbreviations, of Spanish names and words does not translate well. AyA, A and A, or whatever you want to call them have sold more double guns than anybody else I think. I have read over 600,000 so far according to Holts. Everything from lowest field grade, non ejector to decent knockoffs of H&H side plates, with everything in between. Plus a decent knock off O/U.

Their cheap box locks was the final blow to the English gun trade for domestic box lock production. Their made to order side plates were cheaper than the used H&H market. They even made a ton of 25” guns. So no major part of the trade was not covered. Perhaps the only market they did not exploit was the very high end and that market is name driven, extremely high quality and very small.

But in the US all we saw for years were the lowest grades so our opinion of them has suffered. I have a number of model 4 in several gauges. They all give good service, are a joy to shoot and carry and did not break the bank. AyA owners mostly don’t care how you spell their name. They work, don’t need much maintenance and are still undervalued.

Hopefully they don't call them "BM's".

AyA doesn't bother me but I lose my $hit when people insist on calling their stock and forend (the wood parts) "furniture".

As I recall, it's Oo-gar-te-shay'-uh.

From the horse's mouth, the current owner of AyA pronounces the company name as A Y A. AyA Fine Guns . Very nice shotguns. I just had a quick look at their website and their prices have sky rocketed again. Appears a new AYA XXV/BL is now selling for 10,125 Euros. New AYA Boxlock Round Action selling for 11,129 Euros. New AYA No. 2 selling for 10,246 Euros.
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TC

This is a thought provoking topic John. Unfortunately, the problem goes far beyond the gun community and the way some of them pronounce A y A.


A y A is a Spanish gunmaker that has been selling guns for decades, and I seriously don't think they are about to Americanize their name or corporate abbreviation just to benefit the functionally illiterate people here in the U.S.A. One headline in the news today is that Math and Reading scores among 13 year olds are at their lowest point in decades. This in spite of the fact that we spend more per pupil on Public Education than any nation on Earth. And the Liberal Left thinks we simply are not spending enough! Look right here... we have a Professor of Ecology who is mentally challenged by posting a picture on this forum, and whines about how difficult it is. We have a retired English Teacher who has repeatedly demonstrated that he can't spell or use punctuation at a junior high school level. No wonder Johnny can't read.

So really John, we have far bigger fish to fry. We have a large segment of our populace that continues to pronounce the word "ask" as "ax". Or is it "axe"? Don't axe me. If you want to keep a message secret from a young person, just write it in cursive. Schools don't teach cursive anymore because it is seen as too tedious. When is the last time you heard of Latin being taught in High School, even though much of the English language is derived from it? It is more important to teach children that there are more than two genders, and to have Transgender Groomers parading in in Drag and reading to young impressionable kids, in order to normalize perverted and sick behavior. We have a couple one day Holidays to honor our Military Veterans and our Soldiers killed defending our Nation, and a whole month to honor and celebrate abnormal sexual behavior.

Besides all that, English is quickly becoming a second language due to the massive influx of Illegal Aliens from Mexico and Central America. The 30 million or so illegals will probably have no problem pronouncing A y A correctly. Have you been to Lowe's or Home Depot or any Government Building lately? Half of the signs and notices are in Spanish. I keep wondering why actual U.S. legal citizens of foreign descent aren't filing Anti-Discrimination lawsuits, because their own Chinese, Vietnamese, French, Slavic, Nordic, and other languages are not given similar respect? We had a pro-2nd Amendment guy who was working very hard to fix this mess. Crooked Democrats just indicted him and hope to imprison him for the rest of his life, so they can continue to destroy the country. Here's another example of how they Build Back Better:

My guess is that there is some "incorrect" version in every country. Who in all honesty would use their proper name in a casual conversation? Just like BMW. Try dropping that correct name everytime you discuss one.

People don't know what the AYA means. Maybe the guns that are sold here in the USA should be marked A&A?

The mispronunciation that bugs me, concerning guns, is when I hear Leupold pronounced Lee-uh-pold. It's Loo-pold.

Most Yale and Harvard recent alumni these days are more likely to be allergic to all guns. They may be willing to give us proper pronunciation lessons anyways.

Spanish is spelled absolutely phonetically. However, both names are Aguirre y Aranzabal are Basque. So their correct pronunciation would be would be:

Aguirre = "A-ger-ray" (hard "g")
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Aguirre = in Spanish it would be "A-gear-ray"


Aranzabal = "A-ran-tha-bal". Basque name "z" is pronounced as "th" - see pro golfer Olazábal

you gar tek eeah

Sarahs kwet ah

El see smith