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I just purchased this beautiful rifle and am trying to figure out exactly what it is. It came through an Auction House and was put up for sale by the owners widow. She new nothing about it other that her past husband adored this rifle it was the gem of his collection or so Im told .
Can anyone venture a guess as to what it was originally I am guessing Remington rolling block No1 sporting rifle?? Here are the pics

[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/W2V1coxjutX5zw6N6[/img]


Thanks
Bill

I know that rifle well. It hung on the wall in the shop for a long time. It’s a Gove copy. Gove made the lever to assist in chambering a cartridge in a dirty chamber. It’s a hell of a lot of work to make that conversion. The set triggers and sights were made from scratch. The rear sight being a copy of a Fruend. I don’t recall who made the tang sight, but I’m sure it was the best available at the time or he would have made that too. The barrel is most likely a Douglas, as Jack was also great friends with Fred Depoy at Douglas and got the best of the best blanks.

He built it to shoot BPCR, but it was a couple ounces over spec. He was trying to decide if he should rebarrel, rebore to a 45 cal, or shorten the barrel to make weight when a friend offered to buy it. Great find!

Jack Haugh was an acknowledged master and also was renown for his bespoke double set triggers.

Currently on Gunsinternational.com one of Haugh's masterwork rifles is for sale: If you want to view it is no. 101243183 on their website.

Got lucky

https://americansocietyofarmscollec...-B39-The-Feuding-Gunsmiths-Of-Denver.pdf

The action has been identified ,the guy arguing with the results admits he knows nothing and sharing second hand information it is a wonderful gun built by a great craftsman .i have owned a bunch of rolling blocks I only have one 1902 left it has the rotary ejector my 1897 had the sliding extractor .i have a hiwall that was converted from leaf main spring to coil spring it has the cut in the action for the leaf spring it is not a original coil spring action .i hope you get my point.mark

Carlos Gove indeed did make underlever Rolling Blocks, and also did wiping rods with thimbles as this rifle has. So my guess is that Haugh built this rifle as a clone of the Gove style Rolling Block.
It is indeed a #1, but it is not a #1 Sporting Rifle action. It is a military action, and quite likely a later smokeless military action as it has the heavier round top receiver used on later actions, and the rotary extractor that the Sporting models didn't have. All early actions used a sliding extractor, so this can't be an early action.
The previous owner has every right to have been extremely proud of the craftsmanship of this build! It's as good as any Rolling block build I've ever seen!
I've got a couple dozen Rolling Blocks in my collection, and they're a close second to my Ballards as a favorite!

Yes, I have checked them, and replied to you. Do you really want to continue this debate after already being told you're wrong about sliding extractors being late, and rotary being early? What would it do for you for me to point out another error in your PM pictures, other than it showing a lower screw for a tension spring used for rimless cartridges on a late model Rolling Block? You admitted you don't know Rolling Blocks, yet want to continue this debate.
The OP's gun doesn't have this screw, so it's irrelevant to determining the period of his Roller. His is a late model smokeless action, built for a rimmed cartridge, or reworked to a rimmed cartridge chambering.
I think I'm done with this discussion, and wont respond to further posts with you.

Awesome. I'm must swapping notes back and forth for the OP. I could not care less about rollers, personally.

Thanks for your - whatever.

Only time I've ever seen the left side screw and a rotary extractor is on a reworked gun where the Roller was upgraded to a rotary extractor. No rotary extractor original guns had the screw as the rotary extractor has nothing to do with that area of the receiver to retain it. The breech blocks are simply machined for the rotary extractor to fit into the side of the block, and they operate off the block, not the receiver. So if your friend's has a screw in the left side it's an early action that someone put a later breech block and rotary extractor into.
I'll happily takedown all my rotary and sliding extractor Rollers if it helps to show how they work here.
I'd suggest your friend has such a gun, and he could remove that screw and store it away and the gun will work perfectly without it in place.

It turns out I am getting the build history of the gun from Jack Haugh's Grandson!!! Ill post it if anyone is interested in seeing it

Not yet I will have answers in a week or so . Jack Haugh did the whole rifle from top to bottom and his grandson has the records as the Gun shop is still open and has been handed down to Jacks son Frank then now on to Cole his Grandson I will make sure I get the barrel info

Jack Haugh was truly one of the best gun builders we had. He passed in early 2018, I believe. Frank and Cole are his sons. Bryndon Steele (BSteele) will probably be along soon to comment as he was quite close to Jack and spent a lot of time in Jack’s shop in Milan, Indiana. We’ve lost two of the best the last few years in Jack and Jerry Fisher and they’re definitely missed. Two of the finest men I’ve known.

Thanks so much for this info it really helps. I have added a picture of the Gove-Remington underlever to the photos


much respect


Bill

I think Bill should clarify the amount it sold for.

Jack Haugh was a very well respected American gunmaker. I believe he specialized in early American and English style firearms. If you do a search of him you should be able to find some pertinent information on him. You don't see his work come up for sale often. Some other forum sites have already been suggested which would be a good place to start for additional information. He was a master gunmaker and craftsman who performed all the work on most of his creations- wood, metal and engraving. His grandson should be a wealth of info, his son if still living. You have a wonderful firearm by a very well respected maker. Caveat, I have no relation to this man other than what I have read and heard over the years- always held in the highest esteem.