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#623117 12/05/2022 7:32 PM
by Ken Nelson
Ken Nelson
Stan’s super muzzle loader group prompted me to post this target I shot during our State Military Bolt Action Benchrest Match in October.

My rifle is an as issued Remington 03A3. Per the rules, no bedding or sight mods are allowed. The barrel is a two groove circa 1943.

The 10 shot group measured just over 1” shot at 100 yards.

I finished third with a 298-14x X 300 on the agg 3 relay score competition. There were two 299’s ahead of me.

There were also two 10 shot relays for group size.
True to form, I shot my best groups in the score competition😀.

My load is very mild. 24.4 grs. of 4227 behind a 168 Speer Gold Match Bullet and Federal BR primer.
Remington brass is neck sized only as pressure is not enough to require full length sizing. My brass has been fired multiple times with no bolt closure issues. I compare it to shooting one case multiple times as in Sheutzen competition. Bullets are seated to just engage the rifling.

https://ibb.co/CVXQPKt
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#623630 Dec 16th a 04:08 AM
by skeettx
skeettx
For Ken

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#623787 Dec 19th a 03:08 AM
by Ken Nelson
Ken Nelson
I started using fast burning surplus pistol powders with jacketed bullets many moons ago when our club started the MBBR competition. Back then guys were using either conventional cast bullet loads or full power jacketed loads. I was dissatisfied with the occasional flyers I was getting with cast loads and didn’t care for the beating I would get when shooting 60-70 full power jacketed loads thru my 03’s. On a whim I loaded (10) rounds:20 grains of H-108, 168 grain Sierra MK, standard LRP in LC brass and shot it thru my well worn NRA sporter. It held the ten ring of the match target. There were no warning signs and it was pleasant to shoot.I eventually settled on 21.2 grains of H108.My shooting buddy started using the same load and began winning matches (group/score) immediately. Now nearly all our club members are using some variation of the load. Since H-108 is long gone, AA#9 or 2400 are being subsistuted.I have found 4227 to be most accurate in my guns. As I stated, the load does not produce enough pressure to require full length sizing of the brass. I’m neck sizing only. Bullets are seated to engage the rifling.
FYI: there were a lot of raised eye brows when I started using these loads.I wasn’t offended nor was I trying to convince anyone. They were developed for my use only. As with any loads proceed with caution.

Regards,
Ken


I’ll be dipped! Here is load data for .308 reduced loads using some of the powders I mention. Bullet used is a 150 JSP.

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/ammunition_st_practic308loads_201008/99873
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#623645 Dec 16th a 03:21 PM
by Remington40x
Remington40x
Liverwort:

Be careful with low velocity loads with jacketed bullets. You can end up with a bullet stuck in the barrel if you don't provide enough pressure to clear the muzzle. I've had a similar problem with a .32-20 with jacketed bullets. Different cartridge, I know, but something to consider as you develop loads.

Rem
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