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Came across this German drilling. 12x12x8,57mm. Proofed 12.33

Not familiar with the maker. On rib the engraving:

Gerb. Praunsmandtl Ingolstadt

Any info welcome. Proofed 12.33

GEBR. PRAUNSMANDTL, INGOLSTADT
Please display some pics it may help.

Gebrüder Praunsmändtl in Ingolstadt(Bavaria). Emil Praunsmändtl was probably one of the principles.


Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Wilhlem Kelber contributed effort & it looks as if there was a Reproof effort in 1933.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

The name on the rib is likely the marketer rather than the maker. It would have been made for "the trade" by one of the Suhl makers and sold to them for marketing to the end user. The "made for the trade" guns were often marked with the marketer's name, but not always. The shot barrels show the crown R "repair" proof, but the "repair" is not obvious from what can be seen. If there is a "70' stamped on the extractor or somewhere near the circle 12 that would indicate the shot chambers were legenthened from 2 5/8" to 2 3/4" and reproofed.
Mike

Very nice drilling with usable caliber. Congratulations

For Suhl - >>Nitro<< was 1912 & for Z-M it was 1911 for the rules change. Just by where the R surmounted by a Crown are located, I would think it was for a chamber lengthening??

It is a Kerner-Anson platform so that will also put a date bounds on it.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

from memory, suhl proofs started including the block lettered Nitro mark in april of 1912.

best regards,
tom

Thank you. I cannot find any marking indicating 70mm for chamber length. My chamber gauge indicates 2 5/8. Do you know when the German proof house started stamping 'Nitro' on these arms?

If you can lay your hands on some VV N140, it is similar to the original R5(Rottweil No. 5) which some of the old cartridges were loaded. Too, there a reduced load for it that has some excellent accuracy. I'll have to dig thru my notes.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse