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by bushveld |
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With the issues of lead shot ban, ageing of the double gun shooters, the high value of the US dollar there are numerous values at gun shops in the UK now. Here is one for a pair of best quality BLE with 2 3/4 inch chambers and 28 inch barrels that you can buy for US$7,500.00 and be able to get them shipped here for =/- US1,000.00 (about the amount of money that the oak and leather case alone is worth for these wonderful appearing guns). https://www.gmackinlay.com/product/pair-of-12g-ad-ejectors-by-j-wilkes-28-x-2-3-4-barrels/Further to this value is another extraordinary one: A 1905 Boss SLE made by John Robertson himself with his final upgraded patent trigger with 30 inch Boss made barrels of 1990 that have perfect bores and min wall thickness of .031" and .032"; with a 15" plus LOP stock. The barrels of this beauty are worth more than the entire gun price and the wood for the restocking would cost today maybe US$5,000.00 for the stock blank alone. http://www.elderkinguns.co.uk/products.asp?productID=832Searching through the gun dealers of quality in the UK their websites are just full of these values----- just as Diggory writes about. Kindest regards Stephen Howell
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by mc |
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Then there is always a huckster who will try and sell you granite and tell you it's a moon rock
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by battle |
battle |
oh, and by the way battle...just curious, as you are an unknown, no name here...who are you and what are you? and what is your interest in all of this? I been here a lot longer than you have. I was here on the old forum with the likes of jOe(who is here) and Klunkermeister(rip). My interest is double guns. My interest also is how you run your mouth about how to be careful with guns especially imported. But here you are not standing by what you're peddling. No inspection period... You're the one buyers should be made aware of...
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by eeb |
eeb |
Crying shame. Whatever depreciation in value occurring in Britain has not (IMO) translated to comparable devaluation on this side of the Pond. I still see thin walled guns (<.030) offered for more than I think they’re worth, especially hammer guns and sleeved guns.
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by KenA |
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The only young shooters that seem to favor the side by side are those who have been exposed in a positive way as children. I personally doubt that many will grow to become collectors of fine English doubles. If someone has purchased such best guns as an investment, they may wish to sell sooner than later.
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by old colonel |
old colonel |
UK auctions and maybe one day gun shops have long been a temptation for me and have resulted in five guns and a good many other toys making it to me.
I will be posting in the future about some great restocking work by Stephen Dalzell of a Boss SLE project gun I got from Holts.
Making that purchase is a gamble like any auction. You can mitigate the risks with knowledge, more so by having a contact there in the UK check out the item. You must be educated in evaluating and open to asking second opinions from others smarter than yourself.
While the exchange rate makes it look better, it really only shifts the break point a small bit.
The cost of importing can be $750-1000 a gun now. That alone makes most lower end guns become less of a deal.
Further the length of time on the import can stretch out some depending on timing. Government on both sides of the Atlantic are not user friendly to our hobby. The recent complications of commercial service providers adding to those challenges is disconcerting to enraging.
I see the auction buys I have made not bargain hunting, but finding something I wanted I could not find here. I doubt I will really make any money on my buys. I focus on mid range and above quality, and on something I really want, like an Irish made or Dublin sold gun, or a Celtic engraved Scottish 16ga pair.
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by Ted Schefelbein |
Ted Schefelbein |
well, there are a few custom gun builders that come to mind...they build up new sets of barrels from componets and proof those barrels before fitting...winchester proof loads have been a favorite for proofing barrels for some time now...
also, the point is, one does not necessarily need to proof guns to american specs...however, if your seller is confident enough to give permission to proof a gun, that is a good sign that you are dealing with a knowledgeable and honest person...
and if in fact a barrel has a minimum wall thickness of .020, that is reason enough to not buy the gun...in my opinion...
mc, you seem to take some interest in this topic...how come? as you are an unknown here, just wondering what is your role, besides looking to cause discord... Proof is not a thing here, ed. There is no “American” proof. Wall thickness has no bearing on proof, in countries that have proof law, ed. A gun with .020 wall is submitted for proof, and it passes, or doesn’t. Proof is not just jacking Winchester violent proof loads into a gun, and calling the gun proofed if it doesn’t fly apart when fired with that load. There is “view” where the gun is examined and measured prior to “firing” firing with proof loads, and “view” after proof. A gun can be failed at any or all of the three steps, ed. It is against the law to sell a gun in England that is out of proof, ed. mc isn’t unknown, ed. Best, Ted
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by mc |
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Why would anyone let an unqualified person fire proof loads in your gun are you crazy tell me the name of a proof master or a functioning proof house in this country? and if a gun is in proof and reasonable condition why send it out ,also what if the barrels are .020 9 8nchces from the breach is that ok? Hukster trying to defend his patch!
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by mc |
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So if I buy a gun from you run proof loads and the frame cracks or barrels blow you will return money? What custom builders? Because you build guns doesn't mean you have the back ground to run proofs and analyze results because a gun don't blow up didn't mean it wasn't stressed to a dangerous condition what is anyone's role here the reason you are known is your a jerk
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by BrentD, Prof |
BrentD, Prof |
oh, and by the way battle...just curious, as you are an unknown, no name here...who are you and what are you? and what is your interest in all of this? I been here a lot longer than you have. I was here on the old forum with the likes of jOe(who is here) and Klunkermeister(rip). My interest is double guns. My interest also is how you run your mouth about how to be careful with guns especially imported. But here you are not standing by what you're peddling. No inspection period... You're the one buyers should be made aware of... Unlike you Ed, battle is a man of principle, and I have happily purchased a couple of guns from him that were excellent opportunities, unlike you and yours. You are a coward that can't face up to having your own spotlight turned back on you. "Huckster" is gift. You are far worse than that.
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