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#606944 11/24/2021 9:58 PM
by Parabola
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Apart from the early Westley Richards sleeving jobs, when they emblazoned their name above the SLEEVED that the Proof House then insisted on stamping on the sides of the breeches, there is usually little indication as to who carried out a sleeving task.

This gun is a Cogswell and Harrison, circa 1882, sideock non ejector built on the top lever cocking Gibbs and Pitt action patent 284 of 1873.

The locks contain either Holland patent intercepting sears, or a very similar design.

The date stamp on nitro proof when sleeved is unclear but I suspect might be 1978.

Marked on each barrel near the SLEEVED mark is a tiny E COOKE and between those stamps is 77/25 which is probably his 25th sleeving job of 1977.

I can’t find an E. Cooke in Volumes 1 or 2 of Nigel Brown, but it may be that Toby Barclay, Salopian , Damascus or Small Bore will know the answer.
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#608822 Jan 3rd a 08:34 PM
by Toby Barclay
Toby Barclay
Originally Posted by Parabola
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Here is a picture of the inside of the right hand lock of the Cogswell Gibbs and Pitt gun.

I think the number 1028 is a patent use number.

Note that the polish on the bottom of the mainspring suffices to act as a mirror after almost 140 years.

I thought at first that the intercepting safety sear was covered by Holland’s 1887 patent but as this gun dates from 1882 or thereabouts it must be part of an earlier patent.

The 'Block Patent Safety' exhibited by your gun has been attributed to Scott and Holland but it is neither. Even Baker & Crudgington got it wrong, misled by H&H's advertising muscle!
It is fact a reworking of the Needham & Hinton interceptor sears patent no. 706 of 1879 where the 'block' is part of the trigger blade but operates in exactly the same way. H&H showed it in the patent specification for patent no. 5834 of 1887 (operating as a separate piece of metal) but, as with many pre-invented mechanisms, they were wise enough to not put too much emphasis on the safety, concentrating on the ejector the patent covered.
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#607109 Nov 26th a 07:30 PM
by Toby Barclay
Toby Barclay
Nothing in Volume 3 either.
I have never heard of an 'E.Cooke' but I came late to the party and 1977 is a very long time ago! The joint isn't welded but then TIG welding by Bob Ladbrook hadn't been 'invented' in '77. The London trade were probably still very grumpy about the acceptance of sleeving by the Proof Houses (reluctantly!) at that time so my guess would be the Birmingham trade.
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#607112 Nov 26th a 08:55 PM
by ClapperZapper
Growing up, I remember gunsmiths tagging their work.

That was only gunsmiths that actually did an apprenticeship somewhere.

I don’t know which schools told their students to tag their work.
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#607129 Nov 27th a 02:26 PM
by eightbore
Mr. Cooke can sleeve my gun any time. Nice joint.
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#607204 Nov 28th a 10:40 PM
by ed good
ed good
the all but invisible sleeve joints are incredible...would love to know how he did that? must have involved use of a lathe?
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#607228 Nov 29th a 12:03 PM
by mc
Smoke fitting
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