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#604252 10/07/2021 4:05 PM
by J.B.Patton
Any preferences/ advantages/ problem possibilities of these two actions?
I’m looking at a older Beesley SO auctioned gun and wondering how it compares in dependability vs say a more modern H&H action on something like an Arietta 802 or 803.
Thanks in advance.
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#604298 Oct 8th a 03:18 PM
by Toby Barclay
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Purdey SO's have many admirers and many more happy customers but if I had to choose, I would take the H&H design every time. Why? Because having worked on both, I would be reasonably happy to repair or make any part for a H&H but would blanch at the prospect of making many Purdey parts. To take the main spring as an example, they are a fiendishly clever piece of design, performing three operations faultlessly but as a result they are VERY challenging to make and even a blank (if you can find one) needs a lot of finishing before it will do all that is expected of it. Most competent gunsmith can fettle a H&H design but would struggle with Purdey parts.
I also don't like SO guns much. I find them difficult to close in a hurry and the self opening feature has never seemed to be of any great value unless you are opening the gun with one hand whilst reaching for the next cartridges with the other. Fantastic if you are standing under a cloud of birds/targets but not of huge value in my world.
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#604300 Oct 8th a 03:33 PM
by Shotgunlover
To Toby's remarks about self opener utility above I would like to add that you can take out the self opening plunger from a Holland type action without affecting its operation as a non self opener. You can keep the plunger for sale time, to add that "self opener" cachet. You do not have this choice with a Beesley action.

A subjective note- I find the Holland action feel noticeably smoother in all phases of operation.
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#604303 Oct 8th a 04:13 PM
by SKB
Mine must be broken, that sucker flips the barrels open with gusto, no matter if it has been fired or not.
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