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12boreman, battle, Imperdix, Ted Schefelbein
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#603363 09/24/2021 2:40 PM
by ed good
ed good
Some of us have had or know of guns we consider as unsafe to shoot...care to tell us about one?
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#603420 Sep 25th a 03:53 PM
by lagopus
lagopus
Stanton Hills, maybe it's just British farmers but that is from long experience. I'm sure some U.K. members may agree. The attitude seems to be one of 'well it hasn't blown up so far'. I've seen some real shockers in use. Rusty things propped up in cow shed windows, tucked round the back of tractor seats and even bits of welded patches on the barrels covering holes. Maybe it will be less so as a new generation takes over and guns here being as cheap as they are at the moment. Lagopus.....
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#603440 Sep 25th a 07:16 PM
by Imperdix
Imperdix
Originally Posted by lagopus
Stanton Hills, maybe it's just British farmers but that is from long experience. I'm sure some U.K. members may agree. The attitude seems to be one of 'well it hasn't blown up so far'. I've seen some real shockers in use. Rusty things propped up in cow shed windows, tucked round the back of tractor seats and even bits of welded patches on the barrels covering holes. Maybe it will be less so as a new generation takes over and guns here being as cheap as they are at the moment. Lagopus.....

Got to agree ,here in UK `farmers gun` is a well recognised term which immediately paints a mental picture that you describe....seen many such used over the years,most of which were proudly described as `good killers` or `hard hitters` . To the credit of their makers ,i`ve never heard of one that `let go`!!! In fact I`ve not seen any gun that burst or badly bulged other than due to an obstructed bore in my 50 yrs afield.
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#603484 Sep 26th a 03:23 PM
by battle
battle
Originally Posted by ksauers1
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by ed good
stan, recently, an avid shooter i know of had a scary experience...seems like he occasionally shot skeet with a 12 gauge parker hammer gun with damascus barrels, using light smokeless loads...been doing so for quite awhile...well this summer, he was shooting as usual, when one of the barrels erupted, with a few inches of barrel being blown out...fortunately, no one was hurt...one never knows when one of these old guns is going to let go...if one must shoot guns with twist steel barrels, then do so only occasionally...and then only use shells loaded with powder the gun was designed for...ie: black powder...

and as for shooting .017 or similar thin barrel walls...a barrel blockage of any kind or a severe barrel dent will cause pressures to increase rapidly...in that situation, the thinner the barrel walls, the more likely there will be a bulge or eruption...i would think...

That reply is so full of assumptions I won't even begin to address them. And, it didn't even begin to answer the question I asked.


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(R) 3” from breech .105, 9” from breech .58, 13” from breech .43, 6” from muzzle .37
(L) 3” from breech .105, 9” from breech .57, 13” from breech .44, 6” from muzzle .36
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#603471 Sep 26th a 01:12 PM
by lagopus
lagopus
Ed, I remember going to fox drives when all sorts of agricultural folks would turn up and I've seen the odd puff of smoke come out of the side of the barrels. I guess a lot of these old guns have now gone to rest. It used to be common practice at the big estate houses that the boss would use the 'Purdey' until it was getting past its best and a new one would be bought. The old gun would then go to the Gamekeeper and well used until he received the later one passed down and then it would go to the Gardener for use against pests. Stored in the potting shed until the woodworm and rust saw it off. I think the worst example I ever saw; which I wish I had photographed, was a Boss hammer ejector. I had been re-stocked with a piece of timber normally seen holding fence wire in place. The barrels pitted inside and out and dented. The rust made it difficult to see any of the engraving and details. I almost wept! There was nothing that was remotely salvageable. A Boss hammer ejector that I doubt anyone on this forum would have given 10 dollars for and only then as a curiosity. Lagopus.....
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#603516 Sep 26th a 09:30 PM
by 12boreman
12boreman
I would disagree. This thread is about "unsafe" guns...whatever that means to different people. What one person considers safe another might not.
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