Thanks fnb25 for the info. I suppose being able to walk in their store and peruse and deal is much easier than dealing with them over the phone, but the few dealings I tried having with them by phone were frustrating. When it first began under Wes Dillon, who I know personally, I did some decent and pleasant dealings with him. I would agree with the opinions expressed about the CGL in its original iteration being accurate as described, it was much better before the merger with Bass Pro. Hence my comment about it having run its course. No ill intent meant otherwise.